RE: The Video
The second video (Operation Lancaster) does repeat a few bits of the first one (Two Farmers), but it’s not too bad, and that and the third one are definitely the best-massive entertainment for the Lancaster fan.
Also MUST haves for the Lanc fan, are the two other videos from Primetime-‘Battle Of Britain Memorial Flight’ and ‘Classic Aicraft Of The BBMF’.
Best Lanc video of all, in my humble opinion anyway, is that from the ‘Pilot’s Eye’ series, great stuff!
Mike
RE: One for Lancman
Good plan! I don’t personally know of a Lanc-based forum online, so it would be nice if that one kicked off a bit more.
RE: The famous Lancaster R5868 POS Sugar
You got those kid’s addresses? Maybe I know someone..!
Like I’ve said, I don’t disagree with the work on the Lanc in Hendon, just that it’s leaving her looking less than good; different patches of matt black and all that! She’s been in there thirty years, it wouldn’t hurt to truck her off to the doctors for a while!
Peter, do you see the CWH Lanc fly a lot where you are, or just every now and then? I suppose we’re spoilt here in the UK with the ever-present ‘474! I saw her last on the south coast at Eastbourne, she looked great coming along the coast by the white cliffs and all that! On the first day she was on her own, about 30 minutes behind her slot time-they’d had trouble starting her at Biggin or something like that! On the second day we had the Lanc and Spit but no Hurricane, on the third day the Lanc and Hurricane but no Spit, and finally, on the fourth and final day of the event, all three came down the coast together! Great, over the sea in the sun, roaring over the end of the pier, it made a nice change from seeing them over the more usual airfield!
RE: The famous Lancaster R5868 POS Sugar
I’ve not had much luck with communicating with Hendon-and yes, I’ve been nice and polite! But they seemed quite put-out/huffy when I first tried enquiring about the ‘perch’, it’s intended purpose, etc etc. Apparently no one else had ever commented on it one way or the other, so why I should have a problem with it now etc etc…oh well!
Actually, someone DID comment on it in it’s early days-a certain Lancman asked it’s purpose of Michael Fopp, who was watching the proceedings on the very day that her poor backside was craned skywards! His answer was almost that of a seasoned politician, and I knew then that little true thought had gone into it, and she’d be stuck there looking daft forever more.
Now here we are, years later…
RE: The famous Lancaster R5868 POS Sugar
Just realised, nobody said it was the blister that was needed apart from me!
While I’m on the subject of ranting away about ‘Sugar’, here’s a thought;
The tail was originally put on THAT pole, so I’m told, to bring the cockpit nearer the visiting public (yeah, right) and also to give the illusion of a Lancaster landing-hence the old back drop and moving sky projection that used to be behind it, and of course her ‘crew’.
Now, as this idea totally failed in any way whatsoever to convince anybody that this huge aircraft which is hemmed-in on all sides by a building and other aircraft was in any kind of movement, here’s another idea for making more of a ‘display’ of the old thing, while allowing it to retain some dignity-something Hendon bosses have been sadly forgetting about for some years now.
Why not lower the tail off the perch (please, I’m begging you!!!) and have a seven man crew posed about her rear door, ready for the ‘off’ as seen in so many photos? The door could be open, adding that little flash of green and a hint of interest to Joe Publiuc as to what she’s like inside, but there can be a crewman in the doorway and another part-way up the ladder to prevent anyone too keen from jumping in! The rest of the crew can be stood there carrying kit bags, homing pigeons, that kind of thing.
The overall scene would not detract from the display of the aircraft as a whole-the mechanics figures on the Wellington are a good idea of this sort of idea done simply but well.
What about access to the interior for museum staff? Well, it would surely be much less hassle to move, say, two mannequins aside than it is currently to climb up to where the door is now!
Also then, her cockpit would again be accessible to visiting veterans etc, who must currently feel slightly put-out to arrange a ‘pilgrimage’ and get over that main spar, just to discover two stuffed loons sat in the best bit!!!
RE: The famous Lancaster R5868 POS Sugar
…oh, I forgot, why do they need a new H2S blister? Is it just because the old one has been painted over? They’ll surely be extremely lucky to find a servicable one, after all, the Linc Lanc Association have been looking for one for years for PA474!
RE: The famous Lancaster R5868 POS Sugar
Interesting stuff, thanks! David, as I’m one of the more vocal people here regards the Lanc, let me say that I’m in no way knocking the efforts of such volunteers as yourself, but I just think that the Lanc, while perhaps being tended for in all the necessary spots, is starting to look very ‘patchy’, and could do with a complete conservation job, not just small areas here and there that then don’t match the rest in appearance!
Yes, I know the ‘pole’ issue is a museum policy one, so I won’t launch into you on that one! Come on though, anyone must admit, it’s bloody daft looking and totally pointless…
I’d have to say that the interior was far from ‘complete’ when I was last inside there, too! A cockpit panel, nav and wireless stations, and everything else within sight sprayed green, do not an interior make…
RE: One for Lancman
Hi Peter-I think the trouble is, no one knows that it’s there! The only mention of it was a TINY print of the address on the bottom of the cover of their last journal, though I’m assured that it will be given a proper feature in the spring issue this year.
The problem is two-fold-in my view, they’re not at all promoting it well or in the right places, and, dare I say it, a LOT of the Linc Lanc members are of the much older generation who might not have net access, shall we say…
RE: Please help solve petty argument re Sally B
…not with a brand new main spar mate!!! 😛
RE: Lancaster G George
Glad to hear ‘George’ is doing well!
RE: Please help solve petty argument re Sally B
Yes, they’ve had a lot of trouble with wind (!!!) over the years! She’s been off the runway a few times, nearly always when a gust of crosswind gets her. Sometimes things are okay, and other times, it can screw up the undercarriage-at least once she’s ended up on jacks after such an incident, so I guess the BBMF have a very good stock of Lancaster fretting clips!
The trouble is, the Lanc wing is ridiculously efficient, and at the low weights it’s operated at these days, it’ll float down a runway forever if you let it. It just will not land! So, you’re in that situation, in a tailwheel aircraft, and along comes Mr Crosswind…
I’ve always thought, only two things will ever take PA474 from us-a moron at the MoD, or a bad landing.
RE: Lancaster G George
Indeed!
Throttles set
Booster coil master switch-ON
No.3 master #####-ON
No.3 igniton switch-ON
No.3 starter button-pressed…
…No.3 firing, fire warning light out, oil pressure rising, close bomb doors…
Ooh, I’ve started to quiver!
RE: Display Routines-Fast and Low or Lots of Aeros?
That’s ‘above’ as in post No.10!
RE: Isn’t it about time Sally B was repainted.
No offence taken Willow, though let’s ammend that to Sally B being THE…American UK-based warbird!
I should think they’re lucky to afford just to start her up these days, so they can be forgiven for not having given her any new paint for a few years-more pressing matters and all that. But, it would be nice to see it in Coastal colours, yes. BUT, she’s touted as the UK-based ‘tribute to the 8th’ and all that, so I’m sure it’s best if she stays in US bomber colours.
RE: Display Routines-Fast and Low or Lots of Aeros?
SUPERB photos, and excellent comments made by all, in response to THAT comment above…there’s someone there who should be stuck on a pole themselves, to be crapped on by birds and left to rot! 😉