why people always everyday think it is clone.
j15 has aesa, fbw, lcd all from china, and it will use ws10 engine also from china
j15 body is base on j11.
su33 do not have these.
of cos china look at su33 body from yukraine to study but it is not su33.
russia cannot make j15 really.

I’m not sure I was skeptical it would ever join the Indian Navy exactly. I was hopeful that good military sense would prevail over nationalistic politics, but, the proof is manifest that it didnt.

I still do not believe, for one second, that the private opinions of the Indian admiralty reflect the statement released thats quoted there and I never will. Vikramaditya has held back the cause of IN naval aviation at least a decade locking them in to STOBAR, and the same basic limitations they had with STOVL, just with a flashier fighter than SHAR. They, the IN brass, are well aware of this…as that ‘white elephant’ article demonstrated back in the day. The one thing thats undeniable though is that this ship certainly looks impressive…as any white elephant would! :rolleyes::cool:

i agree. india did bad choice for this ship. stobar do not work well. it can only work well on bigger ship design for it. it is not well for small ship that is design for vertical take off aircraft. it will fly almost empty all the time or with missle but little fuel. too much pride in this purchase.
plan also thought of the same thing india did when they buy minks but realize it is not worth it and left it for the casino and museum.

Spock, beam this chap to Enterprise… Please?

Yes, Colombia needs interceptors from the 60´s in order to intercept Russian Bombers… Colombia, New Zealand and the Penguins in the South Pole.

Dont forget the invisible Klingon bombers!

you need spend less time sound sillly and more time being real.
j8IIm is 2006 not 1960.

peru want chinese tank but deal did not go thru bcoz their economy is too weak and cannot afford it so they stop.
maybe peru need to buy cheaper tank like t90 or older chinese one like type59

j8 is the best. most of those option do not fly anymore or not upgraded much. j8 still strong in plaaf. also more room for better radar.

What role do you perceive for the J 20, I am thinking strike fighter or interceptor.

it is multirole fighter.

Just like China!
L-15 > Yak copy + Yak help
Tanks > Russian guns, Ukrainian engines, largely based on Soviet school of thought
Helicopters > WZ-10 made with Kamov assistance

China needs help making pretty much everything it seems.

wow you stalk me every where and always reply to me. it is so creepy
but cannot forgive your ignorance.

l15 is like italian m354. the yak design was not good so like italia china made better version
new chinese tank do not use russian gun or ukraine engine. I dont know where you learn this? it is not 1960 anymore. china make tank other than local version of t55
wz10 and kamov? hahahahahahaha
you look at wz10?

this is wz10

this is kamov

they do not look alike. totally different style.
kamov is 1980 design. wz10 is 2000 design. how can kamov teach chinese how to make something they cannot make themself?