blame thobbes and J20 Hotdog, they always like these kind of threads. 😀

we need get then banned

china have no interest in conquer old territory. it is not russia.

You should really temper your jingoism.

r u abc?

Uh, I’m pretty sure I also mentioned that the Chinese populace may have their resolve weakened if a conflict prolonged into a case where chinese cities came under attack if the US intervened…

And in a short conflict (which was the backdrop of the discussion before), yes chances are it would be Taiwan bearing the brunt of the fighting, despite whatever LACMs or fifth column movements they may be able to launch at the mainland.

My point was to serve the social reality that the vast majority of chinese people see taiwanese independence as a do or die issue, and my question was how much they were willing to gamble in the first place, as we move forwards with greater economic integration.

i agree, every man boy woman in china have strong pride. i know our government is not best some time, we have many corrupt issues.
but that do not change love for the homeland. we will all fight and will die to protect it!
if us try to challenge it, we will blow guam up.

The F-15SE does not reduce the need for another jet. The F-15SE replaces older aircrafts in the ROKAF. A 5th gen aircraft (KF_X) will replace other fighters, presumably the F-16’s. The entire acquisition program is up in the air given the ROKAF’s wish to get 5th gen fighters from the FX Phase III and Lockheed’s inability to provide them within what the Koreans are willing to pay. From what has been reported, ROKAF wanted to go for STEALTH in phase III of the program. Having done well to prepare themselves to dominate NOKO with the Phase I and II (F-15 K’s) they were looking at 5th gen technology to counter efforts to acquire such tech in their immediate neighborhood (Japan, Chine etc). The Price of course does not allow them to do this so it seems (unless something drastic happens) they will go for an incremental F-15SE (compared to their baseline F-15K) and perhaps one day look to bring their F-15K fleet closer to the F-15SE in standard (Radar commonality, Weapon Pods etc)… KF_X would be interesting. They would have to see whether funding something from scratch brings them more utility/benefit than acquiring the F-35 or other future projects (Such as the SAAB) which would be offset by workshare to local aerospace industry. It all depends what the cost projections are with a home grown figther.

i agree w u. korea will just have to stuck with the f15. i know they want to try match japan and china but they can never do that. too small a country.

Wanshan you got banned?!?!

One of the best naval forum posters on the board….

yes why they ban navy poster but not stalker like you

why do us want to side with alqaeda so bad?
china and russia offer sensible suggestion but i think americans against it just for the sake of being against china and russia

If we are actually going to humour this, I think there is a chance that any naval T-50, J-20 could conceivably perform better than F-35C, especially considering F-35Cs relatively smaller airframe, limiting payload and range etc.
But I suspect F-35C will definitely be the most mass produced 5th generation carrier borne fighter, which no naval J-21, J-20 or PAK FA will be able to fully match in terms of numbers.

there is no navy pakfa. you cannot make it because there is no room for hook on the pakfa. if you want a hook then you have to get rid of back bay.
maybe chance j20 can be made navy carrier but its really design for land use. j31 is pure navy.

Yes, yes, and Princess Leia was Chewbacca half sister…

[ATTACH=CONFIG]221044[/ATTACH]

most chinese poster know he is not real