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If you are in the area of Elvington
The Nimrod is arriving at 10.30 am on Tuesday 13 Apr 2010
Check with Yorkshire Air Museum for conformation
Regarding the Elvington Nimrod (and apologies of this has been covered elsewhere), but where will she be displayed (on YAM property or the adjoining airfield)? I understand that she will be kept active (taxiing condition), so I doubt if she will be kept in a position which makes taxiing difficult. Also, how much is the MoD charging for such an aircraft?
What is most amazing is that according to wikipedia he was born in 1916 and is almost 94!!! Probably one of the oldest pilots still flying in the world today…
…great pictures Richard!!!
My concern has always been with former RAF Transport Command aircraft. I understand the plight of Lyneham’s Comet XK699 is being considered by various organisations, but now we have to worry about the VC10 C1/C1K. Does anyone know which original No.10 Squadron aircraft survive? I think they only operated around 10 (all named after RAF VC holders)? I still think there is scope for an RAF Transport Command Museum, based on the USAF’s Air Mobility Command Museum (http://amcmuseum.org/). Problem is the lack of funds and more importantly a lack of time.
Regarding the Lyneham Comet. Wroughton is only nine miles from Lyneham, which is hope to the Science Museum. I enquired if the Science Museum have space to store XK699 in a dismantled state – they said they had no space available, but space could be found for paying customers ONLY.
And now we have to worry about the VC10 (both civvy and RAF). Yes, we have Hendon and Cosford and Duxford, but I’ve always felt there was scope for a new site – possibly near, but not on RAF Brize Norton (either that or at Kemble) – for a facility similar to the USAF’s Dover AFB facility.
I agree, they need to pay the bills some how. Pity they also couldn’t build a small station stop, as not all trains that pass the museum are express trains to the north.
Any news regarding the control tower – some say it’s been moved, while others that it’s been demolished?
Interesting chap: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stanford_Tuck
According to Stephen E Ambrose, and therefore according to the men of Easy Company who knew him:
“Sobel…was fairly tall, slim in build, with a full head of black hair. His eyes were slits, his nose large and hooked. His face was long and his chin receded. He had been a clothing salesman and knew nothing of the out-of-doors. He was ungainly, uncoordinated, in no way athletic. His mannerisms were ‘funny’, he ‘talked different’. He exuded arrogance.
Running up Currahee, Sobel was at the head of the company, head bobbing, arms flapping…..with his big flat feet he ran like a duck in distress.
Sobel was a petty tyrant put into a position in which he had absolute power. There was a cruelty to the man. Sobel was the classic chickensh!t. He generated the maximum anxiety over matters of minimum significance.”
The producers of ‘Band of Brothers’ went to enormous trouble to accurately depict the men of Easy Company, including selecting actors who bore a strong physical resemblance to the men they were playing, and with so many of the veterans involved in the series it is difficult to believe that the producers would have been allowed to stray too far from the truth.
It is easy to dismiss the unsympathetic way Sobel is portrayed as a clumsy pantomime bad-guy (as is often done) but in this case it was probably as accurate as it is possible to be.
Sounds like Spike Milligan’s CO, Major Jumbo Jenkins. Now that’s something I would like to see made into a TV series: Milligan’s war diaries.
So we are in agreement that (a) she won’t be scrapped but will instead end up on a farm (both barrels). That (b) the cockpit section becomes the pride and joy of one enthusiast, while (c)) others pick the bones of useful parts, while (d) the fin is restored and displayed at Newark. I would imagine that income generated from sending the rest to a farm would pay for moving expenses.
All we need is to convince the owners that the best thing was to part with her for a nominal fee or get the local council to intervene.
Questions: who are the owners and which county [council] does the aircraft reside in?
I have a napkin ring made from durilium or aluminium – made by my granddad from Short Sunderland off-cuts. He made a lot of things at work when not helping the war effort,including simple games and puzzles :rolleyes:
I didn’t know this, but when the family moved out of Driffield in 1988, the enlarger my dad made was mostly made from Short Sunderland scrap. It went in a skip!!! 😮
A lot of good comments. I personally think that the reason why she survives is because of the price of scrap metal these days. A year ago a 2p copper coin was worth 3p. Likewise aluminium was valuable, but not anymore.
Regarding sectioning a lightning. I downloaded a cutaway of a Lightning and immediately poo’d myself. It’s a big job – one that could only be done by several groups. Most aircraft restorations are skin deep, but slicing a Lightning in two would be beyond most individuals. Good idea, though :rolleyes:
I think thats quite the best idea i’ve heard in ages, not only could there be half a lightning but half of a lot of other things Phantom, Tornado, Jaguar etc, etc, in fact a whole new museum could created just on that one idea…or two?:)
Not just aircraft, but steam engines and…
answers on a postcard…
Indeed.
But there was much controversy here a few years back when R-Robert at Brooklands was left half uncovered.
Moggy
Hello Moggy, true but there are only two Wellingtons and how many Lightnings? I wouldn’t cut up a good example of the type – only one that is in better condition than the Balderton example. I understand that there are a few fuselages (mostly ex RSAF examples) in various UK locations. It might be possible to create two exhibits out of one airframe (left and right halves), each going to a different museum. Just a suggestion.
Can’t remember if I posted the following, but okay she is past saving (maybe), but what I would have done is completely gut her – remove everything from inside her – including the engines.
I would then treat her wounds – some panels would need to be replaced, while others could be patched up. Access panels, canopy, ejector seat, radome and control surfaces would be secured from various sources. Then paint her up and stick her on a pole for Hendon or Duxford or…
Problem isn’t the corrosion, but her severed wings and fin. I also understand that her belly is badly infected. Restoring her to a complete state would be an impossible task, but if you could reduce the burden of restoration then maybe you could have saved her.
Then again, would be talking this was if she was a WW2 vintage. Maybe it’s best for her to go live on a farm.
What I do think would be interesting if someone secure another Lightning airframe and cut her in half – length ways – showing her two engines, cockpit, avionics and weapons. Just a suggestion…
I get the feeling it’s a bit beyond preservation – it looks unfit for anything except scrap now sadly!
SCRAP HER!!!
I think you mean she’ll end up living on a farm 😉
81-Year-Old Builds Replica World War II Fighter, Flies Cross-Country!
Does his parents know? 😀
Sorry…
At least it gives me hope. Well done Jim – pure inspirational!
…and if you want iconic, why not Pilot Officer Prune. How on earth can you judge the importance of one person over another? Iconic equates image. The Mini is iconic as is the Spitfire and a hundred other visuals of the 20th century. Yes, a person can be iconic, but they have to be in the public domain (James Dean or…), but…