Yes it has been posted before. But thanks for the re post. it was good to have a re read again. Most amazing story. I do hope they make a film from the book it would be an epic block buster.
Always look forward to your new posts Peter. Fascinating and with descriptive captions. Look forward to more soon.
My Thoughts on this incident. Seems to be a combination of Flight Deck protocol. And to much reliance of automation.
The Aircraft was flying to low and to slow causing stick shaker stall on attempting climb to go around. The engines could not respond in time from idle to full power causing the tail to drop. Weather conditions and visibility appeared to be good. It would seem to me that the low slow problem should have been detected earlier in the approach allowing the pilot good time to manually take over flying the aeroplane into a safe landing.
No doubt about it, gives wartime photos more meaning along with the present day location version. Great work Peter look forward to more.
Excellent work. You obviously did a great deal of research. love this thread, looking forward to your next in the series. Very well done Peter.
Love “Then and Now’s” Very interesting thread. Well done Peter. Keep up the good work.
Very interesting read. I used to live in Bournemouth 1955. Thanks for posting.
Excellent Video. Brilliant story line. A must see.
Very impressive quality Video. Looking at the exposure of the engine sleeve valves suggests salt water environment. Looks like its been hit by trawler nets a few times. Be great to trace the history of the aircraft.
BBMF ? Do you mean RAFM ? Much as I understand the fascination to use the citrus juice – the idea that its in a hot tunnel and smells a lot doesn’t inspire confidence . I wish Karcher would sponsor some pressure washers !
Whoops! Well spotted. Yes I did mean RAFM.:apologetic:
Fantastic Pics. I have asked the question on the BBMF Facebook page as to have you located the Aircraft ID Plate yet. That’s of course if it hasn’t already corroded away.
What would be the point though of telling us about his visit and about the scan and debris, it certainly doesn’t scare me away, we have to follow every lead up, doing so eventually turned up the westland wind tunnel model…
We sometimes get misinformation about drawings, photo’s, parts and crash sites.
Now, whether it’s just because the information that is passed over to us is incorrect from the start or it’s made to be deliberately misleading, we have to follow it up. Why some are telling porky’s I can’t for the life of me fathom out, it’s as if they just delight in being irksome & annoying…
All this takes time to sieve through and to deliberately put a falsehood in the mix is just counter productive in getting the project finished, I can’t get behind the mind set to want do this.
For bloody years people have bleated about getting a Whirlwind made and now it’s happening we find people that know where a certain part, crash site or drawing is are just refusing to pass it on to us – Wasting our time that could be better used elsewhere…It’s not as if we’re going to take it from them and never give it back, to keep it locked away only to take it out and gloat over from time to time. It’s beyond my comprehension to hoard knowledge, to not pass it on to those who can put it’s use for the benefit of all…
Rant over…
I started the same thread on another site, interesting the way the two have differed…
http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/517337-fox-tor-mires-future-salvage-dig.html
Have to say I agree with every word here Mr Bluesky. Sadly that’s the way it goes. What is the point of not passing information on, or collecting these relics and not allowing anyone to see it. Beats me. What if Cosford decided to lock away the Dornier and not allow anyone to see it.
With DARRT. We used to do recce trips to the area. meat the locals make phone calls for intros and put requests for info in the local press. Though with the advent of the Internet most of these freebie publications no longer exist. Its was amazing that even the locals actually witnessing an event came up with their own accounts, some of which turned out to be totally inaccurate, but as we all know the passage of time does tend to distort the true account.
Yes I had some great times with DARRT in its hey day. With research, Plant maintenance, Digs. Preservation, And the diving team. Met some great people and fantastic stories and accounts.
Sadly the whole thing seems to have fizzled out now. But Hay. If no information is available from certain people in the know then its just a case of starting all over again.
Try this http://www.bradleyshomeguide.co.uk/Devon/Building_Services/devon_geotechnical_arobinhood.php Hope this helps. Best of luck if you do make contact.
Excuse my ignorance, but who’s ‘Robin Hood’ ?
He is/was the curator for the. Devon Aircraft Research and Recovery Team. (DARRT) Covering Devon and Cornwall.
WOW! That takes me back to RAF Valley in the late 1960’s. Used them to start the engines on the Gnats.