Then you are still imposing an arbitrary limitation. The problem is that life is unfair in many ways. Not even the utopian Marxist ideals resolved the dilemma. So, yes, what you say is to an extent true. None of us has a right to have children. That perception is false. No one should have children unless they are able to take full responsibility for their upbringing. But there are people like Al and Inkworm here who have taken their responsibilities seriously, both for their own lives and, in Al’s case, for his children’s as well.

I think they’d rather we bought the product and somehow I don’t see anyone here doing so……………..

Without meaning to boost your ego, Al, I wish many more people felt and acted as you did. Stories like yours contrast starkly with a report in a paper today of the couple with 10 children, yes 10, living on £32,000 plus of taxpayers money in Hull. She had never worked and he had not worked for 15 years due to angina.The wife stated that she thought she really needed more benefits than she was getting!! No further comment!:mad:

A lack of brain cells, perhaps.

Well, each to his own, I suppose…………….:(

If that is the case, and understanding nothing of the condition you ascribe to yourself, I would respectfully suggest that this does not seem to be a good place for you to be.