Personally I think the ‘doing better’ thing is about intelligently looking after the interests of your tax payers and contributors. Stringent management is everything, especially when it comes to social welfare and how it’s policed. I grew up variously between the UK and Eire, couldn’t believe as a child how well looked after pensioners were there, and that was well before the ‘Celtic Tiger’ boom and bust period, which I also believe was badly managed.

Every ‘team’ needs a prudent, informed and smart manager to win medals. In recent years or indeed months, we have witnessed what an inept, greedy and corrupt political system we have here in the UK. I’d still like to know why anyone thinks that voting for an already established political party alternative that’s capable of forming a credible majority and therefore ‘solution’ will make this a better place to be..

Sometimes I think the bigger EU federal role may be what’s required.. ?

Ren, I can follow the thread of your argument which is commendable but it is utopian. I cannot believe that the undemocratic, unaccountable, definitively corrupt, vastly over-managed, bureaucratically inept federal EU would be a better model than what’s on offer here.

At least here there is a growing majority who see the need to cut state involvement whereas in the EU it is more and more and more jobs for the boys who answer to none but cream the goodies.

I number a good few friends north of the “wall”, having spent many happy days and weeks there over many years and none has any time for the EU or for Holyrood, for that matter. But each to his own, I guess.:)

Oh well I guess some people are comfortable living in an extremely undemocratic european state,you also will be living in a european state that we the British people have never had the chance to vote yes or no about joining,how comfortable are the pro eurosuperstate supporters about that ??

I would just remind you all that the referendum in 1975 was only voting on us remaining in the EC (common market) as it was then …ie as trading partners.

Brave try, bazv, but I think we can safely predict the response you will get, if any.

Thanks, Twin Otter – I really hope I can get up to Newark in the first couple of months of the New Year. Particularly as it celebrates the 85th of the RoC.

Hello,

I’d like to save that quote for future use, hehe

Be my guest – you are more than welcome.;)

Thanks for reminding us, Steve. Our only hope is that no later than next June the miserable shower who have brought us to this ghastly pass, will be kicked out and replaced by something better – nothing could be worse, that’s for sure!