I don’t have the reference source at my fingertips, but I’m 99 per cent sure RR did bench-test a reheated Conway at some time. Never flew it though.
OK, I’ve looked at them but I’m not sure what your point is.
In the majority the aircraft is sharp and the trees have a certain amount of blur on them. But to me this looks more like movement, not focus.
I’m sure there is something wrong with my theory – I’m no photographer – But I still hold that over that distance, if the lens focus was locked on infinity and a shot taken of an aircraft stopped on the runway (to avoid the need to pan and so eliminating movement blur) both the aircraft and the trees would be in focus.
Moggy
Have a look at the Low Level Wales – 30 July thread on the air shows sub-forum, and then go down to the A10 and Hercules pictures. There doesn’t seem to be much obvious motion blur to them, but the mountains in the background are certainly not sharp.
EXIF info says the A10 was taken with the lens at 400mm and f/9, and a shutter speed of 1/800 sec. The Hercules is 165mm, f/9 and 1/250 sec.
Hmmm..have a look at various people’s latest Old Warden shots on this forum where there’s a background of trees and see what you think.
William
Could it just be a question of lack of a suitable application in the first half of the 60s to make the exercise worthwhile? Conway-engined 707s and DC-8s hardly sold like hot cakes, and BSE had enough on their plate with the vectored thrust Pegasus and the various Olympuses anyway.
I presume RR must also have pondered the idea, but its ten-tonne fan studies eventually went into the V2500 a few years later.
Anyone else know better?
My father recalled as a child seeing Gustav Hamel flying up the Mersey, presumably about 1910-plus (dad was born 1904). A family friend who was a press photographer in those days also remembered Claude Grahame-White, with a string of lady friends.
My dad’s sister was about eight years older, and she could remember seeing Samuel Franklin Cody flying his kites from Birkenhead Park in 1902. She retained a lively interest in aviation to the end of her days. Her inlaws were Channel islanders, and even in her 90s she would get special service on the Aurigny inter-island services by gently reminding the crew that her first flight was on a ‘dear old Rumpity’, ie a Maurice Farman Shorthorn, in her RFC days when she drove a Crossley staff car in France.
BBC now saying it’s RAF, with 12 hurt but nobody killed. Fingers crossed, let’s hope it stays that way.
Now, I had always thought the twin 146 was a twin engined high wing, but when I was shown some of the original scheme work at Woodford there last proposal was actually a rear twin engined, low wing, and very nice it looked too.
This sounds as if the 146 almost came full circle in the end. In the beginning was the de Havilland 126, which begat the Hawker Siddeley HS136 in the late 60s. This was a low-wing rear engined plane a little like a smaller F28 powered with the RB203 Trent engine.
The RB203 was put on ice as RR switched resources to the RB211, and any chance of restarting the project was lost with RR’s collapse in 1971. Otherwise, I gather, the HS136 would certainly have gone ahead.
The spec was redefined yet again to emerge as the 146.
I’m following this one with interest, as I’ve got an S9600 and there’s a slight softness about many of the shots straight out of the camera.
At a purely subjective level, the pictures from my 2800Z have a crispness to them which is lacking from those of the newer camera.
I’ve heard suggestions that this is a known issue with the S9500, but not its successor. I’ll see if I can dig up any examples.
William
You’re right, of course, about the unambiguous meaning of ‘first flight’. But this sort of thing goes on all the time. Only last week the Boeing 787 saw the light of day a while before the “offcial” rollout.
William
To me it shows the difference between now and then
Stuart Gowans is exactly right. No-one would have taken offence then, but times have changed and a great many perfectly resonable people would be upset now.
After all, all the effing and blinding that would surely have been part of the crew conversation in any aircraft in the thick of combat has been excised from the Dam Busters and its contemporary war films. Any war film, indeed, is to some degree a bowdlerisation of what it was really like, even the more graphic recent offerings like Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down.
If aviation cinephiles want to take a stand on nigger, then it will alas, send out quite the wrong message about them to the public at large. It would have the retrospective effect of making Gibson and the 617 crews racists in the mind of many viewers, which I am sure they were not.
BTW I’m sure I’ve heard a Dam Busters version when it’s edited to Trigger. Can anyone confirm?
William
Could it not be the case that there will be a post-restoration check flight with a minimum of publicity, and then a public unveiling with “official” first flight with the media present and the raffle winners as VIPs? Seems logical to me.
William
I reckon a far better candidate to be a “British B-29” would have been the unbuilt Short S36 for the B8/41 spec, essentially a stretched “super-Stirling” with four Centauruses (Centauri??) Almost B-29 sized, but unpressurised and a lesser payload.
William
All that talk of uniforms and role-playing sounds a bit kinky to me:D
Still, imagine what you could get up to in the Gnat. Whatever it would be, it would be pretty close-up and intimate. On second thoughts, I’m not sure I want to go down that road…
Might be some food for thought for Roy Coates and his G-ANCF team, seeing as the Britannia is already on the forecourt (or should it be rearcourt?) of a posh hotel. 😉
William
The Bristol Hydra was a 16-cylinder radial, ie two rows of eight. Never saw production, but I’m pretty sure there’s a survivor at Filton – can anyone confirm?
William
GSM are to cut their frequency on the Liverpool-NY run from seven to four flights a week, according to the local evening paper. All bar one of the remaining flights will be via Knock, it is suggested.
William