hawker1966The Viking yoke although very similar had a bulbous end. I have one in my loft and will double check for you when next up there.
Hi again flybuy,
Thats a great loft you have..
That would be great if you can dig out the yoke and maybe a photo would be good, if your lofts anything like mine it may take some time to find.. Good luck..
I did find this website http://www.save-a-viking.org/de/projekt2011.html on the net called saving the Viking. the yokes in the photo do look similar. also if you search other years of thre restoration you will see the yokes in the early years with some sort of wire linkage rather than the break levers, any ideas?
hawker1966Hi a Great thread enjoyed from the start to finish and great to see the log books reunited with there former owner..
also some fantastic photos and stories..
I just purchased this control yoke from a Vickers aircraft ++Photos below ++. thanks to some informative forum members i have identified it as being from a Valetta or Viking but struggling to pinpoint. although i have seen a few photos similar to mine with the yoke less thew brake levers on a viking aircraft, would anyone know whether the levers were standard to the Viking or Valetta? also any ideas on aircraft or mark.
Many thanks Hawker 1966..
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hawker1966It does seem that turning selling from the car boot on the day is popular..
not sure though if any organizer would allow this but appears a few people would sell in this manner..
location dosnt seem to be to much of a problem for a few..
lets hope there is to be another Brenzett and the likes..
hawker1966To answer the title of the thread, Kelly Brook washing Spitfires in a Bikini. Just being honest!
Mysticpuma. You have nailed it.. Brrrilliant
hawker1966Hawker 1966, I would go with Vickers Valetta (minus brake levers), the PTT switches are all standard fits to many British yokes of this period as Ian has pointed out. You will find that normally each manufacturer will keep the generic design outline of their yokes the same. For example Vickers, Douglas, Boeing, Lockheed etc although their yokes evolved through the years the basic pattern outline remained the same to a certain extent. Therefore picking up a yoke most times you can get a general idea which stable it came from even though you don’t know which particular aircraft it may have originated from.
Thanks flybuy. now that i have been looking towards the Vickers yokes, thanks to Ian i have to agree with you i feel also it is more likely to be the Valetta as going by the switches and design of my Varsity yoke of which appear to be similar to the later valette yoke. and looking at VX580 of which was a Valetta C2 https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRxqFQoTCKSk1auzz8gCFcS-FAodC9wGMQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fegwu%2F3919815171&bvm=bv.105454873,d.d24&psig=AFQjCNHJtMKgx9a4mguh9nMDzQ7bpvObvQ&ust=1445373331353314 this has an identical yoke but again with the later switches where as the yoke i have acquired has the singular switch so im possibly guessing C1.. any thoughts.
hawker1966Looking good Brad! Best guess so far is early Vickers Viscount or Valetta. The pic is from ‘Control in the Sky’ by LFE Coombs, a very good reference. Also check ‘Once Aloft’, here: http://www.angelfire.com/il2/aphs/vickers.jpg
Your B17 yoke is a treat, Swifter. The woodwork looks in lovely condition. Not sure if they were fitted to the early Forts the RAF used, probably none over here though. Ebay continues to delight! That said, another forumite found a nice Canuck column at Newark, which I sagely described as Vampire. The knuckle is pretty similar though…
looks pretty good to me Ian, the anglefire photo is spot on bar the switches, do you know whether the type of switch on my yoke were standard to other types of aircraft.. as i have seen this I/C R/T switch on Percival yokes.. Well done once again i will now point towards the Vickers production.
hawker1966Hi,
Can anyone please help with the possible identity of the control yoke that i purchased recently at Newark aerojumble, Ive hunted high and low on the internet 24/7 but with no results as yet, but will keep trying as im still no closer to identifying this particular yoke.
It does appear to be similar to a Percival yoke reference the I/C and R/T switch as they appear to be identical..there should be brake levers fitted but are missing, not sure if this helps in any way. Ian have you had chance to have a look?
As always thanks in advance for any info..
Brad.
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hawker1966The ability to turn up ad hoc, have a look around and then have the opportunity to sell bits and pieces out of your own car boot (by payment obviously but without prior reservation) in order to make a few bob for the admission and petrol which is spent traveling. People are able to turn up ad hoc and sell at Sunday mourning Car boots why not at aero jumbles? This in turn means the possibility of more people attending, more items being sold which in turn generates more people through the gates. Perpetuating circle!
Fair comment. didn’t Brenzett and the former Shoreham have sellers from car boots? from what i can remember there was..
hawker1966You beat me to it hawker1966, I was just about to start a similar thread “Aeroboots / Aerojumbles – the future?” 🙂
When I have a little time later I’ll put up some comments in the NAM Briefing thread specifically about yesterday. A couple of observations on the wider Aeroboot / Aerojumble might be worth sharing from comments that were made yesterday.
Slight concern from a couple of traders who indicated that they’re finding it increasingly difficult to secure instruments & parts to sell on – belief this is due to current MoD disposal process.
I was surprised yesterday that the regular buyers were not staying quite as long as normal i.e. quite a few ‘in – outs’ in a relatively short space of time.
What does the future hold for the sector generally?
Might it be worthwhile for a friendly moderator to bring a couple of the posts over here from the NAM Briefing thread? Just a thought!
Hi Twinotter23.
Ref yesterday i did see someone testing the instruments and parts, but the ones i see were ok (passed) i left around 12 0clock it appeared then that the sellers were still there, it looked quite well attended but not sure if there were to many buying. only the sellers can let us know on this..
I feel there is a future you only have to look on the internet sites to see the amount of aviation items being listed, although the prices i feel have gone down at the moment, but im sure they will return once we are out of this current climate.
Ref aerojumbles i still feel there are a lot of people out there.. who would attend but its trying to find out why they don’t, in a constructive manner..
hawker1966Would be very interesting to see if fees were dropped whether more would turn up, as in today’s current climate i feel its is a struggle for people to find the extra cash for what can be a expensive hobby.. trouble if aerojumbles decreased there prices and the same amount of people or less turned up then it may be an expensive mistake..and maybe spell the end. it needs an influx of people at an event
then maybe then maybe. they may be able to reduce prices for the following event. a bit of a catch 22..
hawker1966Hi Junk collector.
I have done Newark on the last 3 aerojumbles although on a smaller scale there always appears to be something there for me personally, if not at least there’s always the Museum,an added bonus for Vulcan fans was the Vulcan cockpit was also open yesterday.
Ref Brenzett like you say its an event that is or was rebuilding but fair play to them for attempting to keep this aerojumble running, for me personally it would be a shame if it disappears from annual aerojumble calender..
I have to admit that i have never been put of by the entrance fees on any aerojumble event as ive hopefully been lucky to make up the fee by what i have purchased in the way of value.. as always better priced than certain internet sales.. but i guess it all depends on what field you are collecting on whether you find something there for you.. i think any jumble is a bit of a lottery as to whether you find what your looking for.
But getting back to Newark aerojumble, i had a Great day as always well organized and made very welcome.. a Great event.
Maybe this needs a different thread as i wouldn’t like to take the thread title away from Newark..
hawker1966Hi flyingblind.
Ref Brenzett i haven’t heard anything as yet as normally would of heard in the pipeline, i just hope that this event does carry on, but like any event it does need the support of the public, although the last 2 events for me have done pretty well, but always needs to increase event by event.. i know some people complain about the location of the event but for me i would travel the length of the UK as just love the buzz of aerojumbles and people who carry the same interests and hobby..
i.e. i traveled from East Kent to Newark yesterday. some 2 hrs 45 minutess drive.. early start 6am bit of breaky on route to hopefully find that little gem..
I managed to get hold of a control yoke at a price of just £20.00 not sure what it is as yet, (maybe a Go cart wheel or a Halifax who knows.. only joking..) but like i say this is the buzz for me personally..
Incidentally after attempting my own research i will no doubt eventually put it on the control grip/yoke thread for any help, looks similar to a Percival at the moment.. might be over to you Ian on this one..
hawker1966Quite often Vickers Valetta Yokes get confused with Vickers Varsity yokes. Do you know the difference? Both are quite similar but do have noticeable differences. Regardless both yokes are very nice and a good reminder of the piston era shortly before the dawn of the jet age. On the 6th sept 2015 a Vickers Varsity yoke sold on eBay for £206 (17bids). In fact it was advertised wrongly and was actually a Vickers Valetta yoke! From monitoring previous Varsity prices, a good condition one will fetch (low to high range) £175 to £250. Hope this helps, certainly a nice example to have in ones collection. Good luck.
Many thanks fly.buy for your detailed answer.
Ref Varsity or valletta here a a couple of photos.
As im mainly into ww2 era i would like to of changed it for something of that era yoke or grip wise.. including in good or relic condition.. but falls a little short in value, but still a great yoke like you say.
I managed to find this example at a military fair, so very happy with the value.
Cheers Brad.
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hawker1966Hi all,
Would anyone have an idea what a Vickers Varsity control yoke would be worth these days, it has know history, but is in nice condition.
Many thanks as always..
hawker1966It is sitting backwards….flip it around. 🙂
Those big wings/elephant ears on the side mount to the main frame just as in clint’s photo.I suppose it IS possible it is a Bf110 armor glass frame. It looks similar.
Could you get some photo’s with better light? It is a bit dark.
Hi
I will try and get some better photos over the next couple of days.. Cheers again.
Brad.
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