Does anyone know which aeroplanes / replicas were used for filming this, and what happened to them. I can remember a Be2 and an Fokker EIII but other than that it’s a bit blurred!!
Willow
Timings would be nice if anyone knows?????
Willow
Fair enough Moggy, Thanks anyway. Nice shot.
DROPTANK, you should be aware that restorations like this DO take a long while. The actual airframe is one of the less time consuming items to restore. With all due respect to panel bashers everywhere, the frames and skin are probably the simplest part of a restoration process compared to the engines (which must be a problem in the Beaufighters case) and systems such as hydraulics and electrics
Don’t be too hasty, it’ll get there in the end. The first Blenheim took twelve years to restore.
Willow
But quite topical, you must agree!
Moggy, any details on the original shot?
Willow
Possible caption.
Aircrew discussing the possible use of the newly restored Beaufighter for Pepperami advertising using a dressed up torpedo……
Willow
It’s going to be outside. Which is no place to keep an aeroplane if you want it to have a long term future.
However….
a little bit of TLC can make a hell of a difference. Shackleton WR963 at Coventry is kept outdoors and is maintained by volunteers. On Sunday at Coventry it looked in great shape. It only takes a bit of care to keep even a big thing like a Shackelton looking good. All you need is willing volunteers, and permission for them to work.
I’m ignoring the fact that it can run on all four as well, that’s a seperate issue.
Willow
I seem to remember that Breitling managed to get OFMC to find accurate colour schemes which showed the company colour, ie yellow. This was very tastefully done, although the Spitfire looked a bit odd. I think the Sea Vixen has caused a bit of panic about sponsorship (although you never know!!). The Red Bull B25 and Corsair are both in very tasteful colour schemes.
OFMCs Tiger Sqn has a particular and very worthy cause to back, and does so admirably. I think I’ve even been inspired to join it!
It looks like I was wrong about the friends of TFC. If the money raised goes towards helping volunteer work then I am all for it.
Sorry if my obviously wrong thoughts have misled anyone.
To pick up on a comment made by bentwingbomber, what happened with the Corsair at Legends last year? I hadn’t heard about that.
Willow
P.S. Yak – if you’re being sponsored by Smirnoff then I want to be sponsored by Glenfidich please!!
Prehaps Moggy should be sponsored by KiteKat!! 🙂
With reference to the Corsair, I am amazed that better research was not done at the time of the repaint. Why paint the aircraft to represent one which only existed in that scheme before it was pushed over the side anyway? Very odd.
Looks nice with the yellow though, shame it’s not right
Willow
How badly damaged was the Centaurus from G-EEMV?
If it was largely OK, then you would have thought that TFC or the RNHF would have snapped it up with indecent haste!
Willow
In response to Tony C.
Terrifying isn’t it!!
Prehaps some of the American built aircraft would be better off sponsored by Budweiser instead, what about the Tigercat. The Yak could be sponsored by Smirnoff, the Spitfires by John Smiths, and the Beaufighter (given it’s background) by Fosters!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHH
Willow
Okay Moggy, I take the point. But how often do you expect to see any of these except for Legends?
By the way, you missed
Buying a P38
Oh sorry, I take that back. It was swapped for a Mosquito wasn’t it!!
With refence to Red Bull aircraft, I think it has been established that the Sea Vixen only flew one day at Coventry. Additionally, the Red Bull B25 is booked for IAT this year (what about the Corsair).
Oh, DOUGHNUT, it was a Widgeon not a Mallard
Willow
NO NO NO!!!
If you start filling Hendon with fibreglass, then whole place becomes a joke. No-one will know whats real and what isn’t. Before you know it, they’ll have a Stirling and Whitley in there. Why bother restoring the Bristol Bulldog, when a fibreglass replica would have been much much cheaper? It ceases to be an aircraft museum and becomes a display of (admittedly very big) model aeroplanes and I’ve got that at home (but much smaller).
I do agree about hanging things up though. All the Tempest would have needed was a new coat of paint and no-one would have known. At least it has been properly done and will last a lot longer now, but it’s a waste once it’s hung up unless you have some VERY good walkways so people can still get close, which I doubt very much.
Willow
Two UK based Mustangs, Janie and Big Beautiful Doll, seem to get plenty of bookings as a pair. What are they doing that TFC are not? Price, maybe?
In cost per hour, it must be cheaper to run a historic aeroplane if you fly it more often. Maintaining something like a MkXIV Spitfire, just to fly it at 2 shows a year is must mean that those two hours are damn expensive. Hence the probable cost of booking TFC aircraft for airshows.
I’m not knocking ‘Friends of TFC’ at all, but where do you think the money is going, if not towards keeping the aircraft flying?
Willow
I agree. It’s unfortunate that the only genuine target tug within the RAF Museum happens to be the only complete Tempest V, but at least it is original rather than being in an unadopted green/grey scheme as it was before. The RAF museums other Tempest (albiet a MkII) is in green/grey. The silver/red/black/yellow is strangely attractive and nicely different. Well done the RAF Museum for a bit of original thinking.
NOW, please put it somewhere uncluttered and light so that we can photograoh it
Thanks
Willow
Buy one or sponsor one, eh!
If I’m going to sponsor an aeroplane, I’d like to see it occasionally. That’s why I’m a member of the Sally B supporters club, and not the Friends of TFC. Fantastic show by Sally at Coventry last weekend, but I didn’t notice any TFC.
I’m not into badges (I’ve nothing against anyone who is mind you) and I can always find a good place to watch from at Legends, so why should I sponsor a ‘business’ (quote) just for one day a year.
I’d rather put my money into a charity (I think it is anyway) like Sally B.
At least with Sally B I know it won’t be traded in for something more interesting, just because the owner feels like it.
Willow