Watched it with great interest and great to see the Gannet now back safely and getting some TLC. Now we await to see if, and when, she flies again?
Thanks for that watched but it failed to be shown. I guess as the riots situation took up half the programme, they didn’t have time.
Guys your all shooting this film down based on a few mins of trailer time.
First of all none of you guys or girls have seen this film yet as it has yet to be finished.Don’t be so quick to say this film will be crap because it may not be historically accurate or it has CGI instead of real aircraft or that the budget is quite small in comparison to other block buster films. As they say don’t judge a book by its cover.
And im afraid CGI is the road most of this films will be going down due to the costs involved in making films with real aircraft. CGI is the more financally and logistically viable option. When filming with aircraft you have to not alone source the aircraft. You also have to get the right pilots to fly them, Engineers to keep them flying, Painters to get them into correct livery and also all the support that is needed to look after those guys too. And then you have to figure in the cost of Fuel and Insurance and also the hire of a location to film.
I would love to see another Battle of Britain style film with all live action filming but unfortunatly it ain’t going to happen in the current econmic climate.
Guy and girls lets just wait till its out and we have seen it before you start making assumptions that it is going to be crap.
That’s exacty the point I made Matt. However, I have to say that if they need to use CGI, at least make it realistic and believeable! Watching the trailer, the skies are unrealistically crowded as it seems they are trying to fill the screen with action – and it’s far too much. Also the sudden ‘flip up’ by the P-51 is an unrealistic manuouvre ( looks like a Flanker ‘snake bite’ manouevre!). I’m happy to accept CGI if it is realistic.
An important question should be raised today and hopefully with suitable planning important aircraft can be saved. Not all C-130’s are the same, of the ten remaining old generation C-130K’s XV196 and XV200 deserve special mention. According to the excellent BARG Falklands Air War, XV196 was one of the first C-130s to be fitted with extra internal fuel tanks to allow ultra long range flights, before the inflight refuelling mods took place. On 7th May 1982 XV196 was flown from Assension Island by a 47sqn (special forces) crew to meet HMS Plymouth in the South Atlantic, although the planned air drop was aborted the flight lasted 18 hours. The mission was repeated on the 8th May and sucessfull air drops to HMS Plymouth, HMS Irishman and HMS Yorkshireman carried out again with a 17 hour flight time. Three more long range flights were made before XV196 returned to UK on the 16th May for fitment of inflight refuelling
XV196 was also the subject of the Airfix model kit. Furthermore, I’m all for preserving the ‘oldest’ example of each type and that makes ‘196 favourite for Cosford imo.
Can anyone provide a vaguely accurate indication of the actual colour as I have seen a few photos with varying shades but all will have been based on photos that have discoloured with age and I don’t fully trust them.
If you look at the nose close-up photo in post #1 at the start of this thread, I would say that’s a pretty accurate representation of the purple colour that hasn’t faded. We know the RAF roundel colours which show to be correct, so this is a good indication. The flash and lettering on the nose is ‘cream’.
I have a soft spot for ‘IDN from when it was pale blue and owned by the late John Fairey. I made my first air-to-air photo shoot on this aircraft out of Staverton in 1968. The following year it was repainted dark blue then around 1974 is was repainted yellow and appeared at Yeovilton that year and I last saw her at Middle Wallop in 1975, I think, before she was sold to the States.
Since being reimported back to the UK, I don’t think she has even flown but has spent a prolonged period at Kemble and Booker being put back together. Many hoped that at the very least the owner could have got her outside on static display at one of the Kemble Air Days, but she remained hidden away.
Now it seems the whole aim was never to show her off, but to use it as an investment with a ‘major’ profit in mind!!! Very sad!
It’s historically significant and about quarter of the price of the Demon (I would think)
I was wondering if they have an ulterior motive, purchase the Wildcat and refurbish/repaint it, then sell it for a profit in order to purchase the Demon?
I may be missing something here, but I believe this battle with Mole Valley Council has been going on for more than 20 years and that the museum has survived to this day without anything being enforced. I believe that the initial issue of not having planning permission was overturned on a technicality in that the aircraft in the collection were not permanent fixtures (i.e. buildings) and could be moved around on their wheels, so effectively were regarded as ‘caravans’ and thus exempt. That and all the good support the museum has had from the local area must have kept MVC at bay, so what has changed? Surely the museum has proved its worth to the local rea, to tourism and to the country nationally? It smacks of those MVC councillors that oppose this are doing so out of spite, as they got beaten on technicality issues when the planning permission was first raised all those years ago.
Peter can you just clarify that the Museum isn’t being forced to close, just being refused planning permission to construct buildings to get the aircraft under cover?
I am very pleasantly surprised that the old string bag will be at Duxford
I don’t think Mark is that old?;)
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And isn’t 1943 a wee bit early for the T7?
The last line of the BBC’s report reads:
“The model that will be based in Coventry was built in 1949”
I thought it was going to Odiham first for painting, before it goes to Coventry?
You are joking of course? The only place they would have them without a parking fee would be alongside the Handley Page Herald on the fire dump! 😮
Out of curiosity, what is the going rate rate for pleasure flights – in the UK and mainland Europe – these days?
Around £40.00 for a 10-15minutes flight. Depends on aircraft, operator, duration etc, If you want a 70-minute Dragon Rapide flight over London, it will cost you £199.00, which is still not bad for what you get.
Could these be Hawker Hunter canopies?
I am sure everyone on here is well aware of the costs involved, but that is not the purpose of this thread. The thread was started to speculate and suggest what might/should be done with the airframe. I am sure we are all aware of the logistics and costs involved, but we don’t know what funds are available to the owner and whist contemplating that, it is nice to share thoughts with forumites on what should/could be done if money was no object.