Yep, the cat was on its way to Clacton.
Herman
The sad fact is Cees, is in this day and age, and in my personal experience, as soon as you have Mk9 or any Mk Spitfire, you talk serious money, and that clouds everyones judgements. Collecting policies and common sense, and sometime morals, go out of the window when hard cash is being thrown about………
Regards
Tim
Threu, but why not paint a Spit in other colours then the dull camouflage that most of them are in. There are so many (RAF) colour scemes.
One good example of money being throw, is Flying Heritage Collection. Where money is no problem what so ever. Every rare type of aircraft is there.
Is this a good case of restoring artefacts?
Herman
I do think the collecting policy of the Aviodrome is a strange one. On one hand stating that they are going for a civel and Dutch themed type of collection. And then get a Saab Viggen. Also what will happen with the Beech 18, its now camouflaged. Do they repaint it ore sell it on. At the moment its sitting out side.
Herman
A Dutch buyer, that can be Karel Bos. Of HFL.
I do understand the museums who sell some of there stuff off for cash. As most museums who do not get govermunt funding are short of money.
EN830,
Aha! the cat’s out of the bag!! 😮So a Spitfire is worth a lot of money. So it doesn’t matter if it has a historical value for a country other than the UK. SO if you wave your wallet and shove some bits of scrap aircraft into the general direction of the poor museum involved then there is no other way but to get it out, rip it to bits, replace what’s necessary (destroying some orginality here and there) and get if flying. So, if I give enough money to the long suffering RAF Museum to take Halifax W1048 off their hands so that it can finally be restored in Holland (not exactly where it would belong, but who cares) that would be a win win situation irrespective of the few UK Halifax afficionados would be crying at the gate near Harwich when the lowloaders depart for the Hook?
The result? Museums with wrecked airframes of dubious provenance, but with lots of cash (just a guess) and several squadrons of Spitfire IX’s at airshows where bored people stay away from en masse.
I like it!! 😀 :dev2: :diablo:
Seriously, this is a good discussion. Let’s take it further (without teddies or hadbags) to see what good this will do to preservation.
So, do we need squadrons of Mk IX Spitfires in the air, or is diversity a better option. And what rights do National Museums have?
Cheers
Cees
Cees
Think its time to start a new topic as this is not no longer about the firefly.
Herman
Did not included the one at overloon as it is was a conversion from a MK.XVIII to a MKXIV.
Herman
The aviodrome wil go to a civel aircraft theme, so a Firefly does noet really fit in there. And as mentionend before they have a Dutch war Veteran as well. I share Cees his fear, this might go as well. But not only the Fokker but what about all the other items they have in there collection. They have a cold war theme and just recieved a Saab, why as they just want a civel themed museum. It sounds like a contradiction to me.
Herman
We have 3 more Spitfires in Holland, and I’ll be happy to wave them all good bye. Never liked the type, but a wrecked Firefly for a Spitfire, why not both Fireflies ?
BW Roger (IRSH)
As far as I know we are just left with 2 spits, 1 static(Soeterberg) and a flyer(MK732).
Herman
Does this mean it is coming our direction?
BW Roger
Roger, best to ask Prudent.
Herman
As an ‘ex’ DAS volunteer at Duxford (Sunderland), I would love nothing better than to come down and sweep the floor, paint strip panels, and any other menial tasks that help TFC in any way.
However, I too have gone down the ‘girlfriends, marriage, babies, old age’ path (if 36 is old age?? – certainly feels like it or is that just the sleep deprevation caused by my 12week old son???), and sadly just don’t have the free time anymore (although I did make it to Legends – fantastic).For anyone who IS in a position to volunteer I would thoroughly recommend it. Not only do you get up close to real aeroplanes, but you can be part of a team, feel pride when you see a project finished, learn a lot of new skills (I’m still bloody good with a yard broom!!!), meet many likeminded people, and generally have a great time.
As for the Tigercat, it’s sad (but not that surprising) to see it going, but look on the bright side. Maybe at Legends next year the Bearcat and Hellcat will fly together and we can see what the Hellcat can really do, rather than see it always pottering around behind the slower Wildcat.
Cheers
Willow
Use to do work on the Catalina, was traveling a few times a year from the netherlands and spent a week working. During summer time you flew to airshowes and be part of the whole thing. Now live has changed, but I still look for opertunities to do an airshow ore two a year with the Cat.
Herman
Your average dutch film.
Am living near a low fly zone of the Dutch airforce. So we see Apache’s coming over at tree top hights. F-16’s flying below 1000 ft. And a few times a year the Dutch Spit and B-25 coming over. Good place to be.
Below is a link of the Dutch met office. One draw back for the non dutch speaking its in dutch only
http://www.knmi.nl/klimatologie/daggegevens/index.cgi?day=document.forms[Invoer].day.value&month=document.forms[Invoer].month.value&year=document.forms[Invoer].year.value
Herman
Try to make contact with the aviodrome at Lelystad they are restoring one to flying condition. They might be ablt to help you.
Herman