Binbrook your talking about the dreaded “frame E” you do know that that is alost 8ft high?
Peter,thats my plan,then build the jig to start construction…debating as to how much “shell” plating to put on if areas are left uncovered all the internals can then be viewed
PROGRESS with formers
Bomb aimers section formers “J”and”H” now finished….three feet in and counting
Air Ministry question
Your picture is of an “air mileage unit “[AMU].Fitted under the navs bench up against fuselarge wall in Lancasters.Takes an air pressure “input “from out side of the aircraft and drives the API air position indicator,from which a cable drive take off powers the air milage indicator [API]
THE FINAL ANSWER ON PAINT COLOUR
There are several accepted standard reference sets of paint chips available world wide…..used by archaeologists ,museums etc for transmitting colour information.
To use them is simple…hold sample against matching chip,note chip ref number,send chip ref number to interested party.THIS SYSTEM WAS DEVELOPED TO ENABLE HYPER ACCURATE COLOUR INFORMATION TO BE TRANSMITTED
All this clap trap about faded paint on panels not looking like a picture in a book ,or a downloaded pic on a display screen,is ridiculous.Unless all screens/display devices have been calibrated [and checked frequently] against recognized standards,there is no hope of making valid comparisons.
Elliot wants to investigate and record colour electronically here is a link that will answer those questions….
Guess what??? when you’ve scanned and defined the paint using electronic methods you get a ref number from one of the “standard chip sets” to send to all your mates.
Great pic ,thanks very much Hindenburg…….is that the wireless set you you will fit in your build??
camera mountings
Tim ,the castings for the support frame joints and the main camera supports are in the process of being made right now
geoff
Last pics of this batch.
thx creaking door…yep when i saw it in the box of mixed crap,it called out to me….merlinnnnnnnn pistonnnnnnn ashtrayyyyyyyy
Bought this on thursday
Here in Canada thursday was an holiday ….CANADA DAY… I found a local auction house holding a sale,two and a half hours later and eleven bucks poorer I became the owner of this ashtray…..The “handle”is made from a section of the removed /discarded piston skirt
Web pilot…..don’t think its a “fashion” item,this is the second set i have come across in thirty years of collecting.both sets were different but were almost identical to rfc wings [more below]
One explanation [and the one i tend to believe]is that these were produced in 1918 and are “mistakes”….both sets are identical to genuine RFC wings ,in the types of materials used,weaving patterns and stylistically.
The wings were produced on automatic machines,using jacot card programming,now if a manufacturer were to reprogram his machine why not keep the letter “F” in the same place and style as the r F c wings he had been weaving on his last batch?……a wartime rush production????
We must also remember that at that period there were three RAF uniform colours ,and many tunic styles being made
There is a scene relevant to this discussion in the first India Jones film…..forgive me if the words are not exactly correct
“See this watch ?
whats it worth?
ten dollars?
now if i drop it in the sand and its dug up in a thousand years,whats it worth then?
A mass produced component? Of course it WAS…Hundreds of the for sale on ebay?? I think not……Valuable? only worth what someone is willing to pay on the day…But the parts of the wheel in question sure bear the marks of passing time,from the picture Tony posted it looks to be a recovered relic,some poor sod might have made a prayer to his maker during the course of its previous history….we do not know, but does that lack of knowledge justify the rebuilding of that object into a pastiche of its original form?
As to the rebuilding of historic airframes we now find ourselves back on the “data plate” merry go round another minefield
Might be cheaper to have one of my repros and frame/mount it with the relic parts.The “restoration ” of historic artifacts is a veritable mine field.Glueing things together and slapping a coat of paint on is not restoration,in fact it is a path to further destruction.This is a subject that haunts many conservators and museum curators,as time moves on and older methods are superseded by more “scientific “ideas.
The British Museum displays many thousands of objects as an example of “distressed display”that of the Sutton Hoo artifacts might serve as an example ,some are displayed mounted on perspex mounts ,just to support fragments in relative original positions and to allow handling without touching,there is an excellent example of “display reconstruction” a large cauldron displayed mounted on a massive iron frame that supports the structure,over size hexagon headed bronze nuts and bolts hold it together these are inserted through original holes…this is done so there there is no doubt about what is old and what is new….and allows visitors to understand how it would have looked
In times gone by a coating of “varnish ” was acceptable,now microchrystaline waxes are used…these [hopefully] stop oxidation and further degradation of surface finishes and can be removed easily with out damage.
How many of us have paper artifacts that have been repaired in the past with the dreaded sellotape,now permanently damaged with a brown gunk soaked into the surfaces,and the tape integrity long since gone
The days of handling museum objects are passing,white cotton gloves [or latex] are the order of the day
So please Tony et al ,leave the bits as they are,mount then sympathetically,and preserve their history [with as much recorded info as you can]You will never get it to look right,it will never be new again.The knocks dings dents etc are part of the story,respect that.
We are all just temporary keepers of these objects,why spoil them for future custodians?
Tim thanks for the kind words ,pleased that your happy .Attached is a picture of the final version of the control wheel,fitted with original switches…getting the “grip ridges” on the inside of the wheel correct was surprisingly difficult….the first wheel was string wrapped to hide the fact that they were missing,but i must admit i think it looks rather good that way
I do not want to upset the boards owners by selling here on site …..my project is to build the front section of a lancaster bomber,as this is progressing many parts have to be recreated ,i am working from original drawings and in many cases have the loan of original components to copy.
If you would like to contact me I will be able to give more information about the control wheels [and the various options available ]and other parts i have.you can send me a message here or email me……
[email]johnlandon1@hotmail.com[/email]
At present i am working on former “j” and getting the decal plates finished off for various panels etc