Are you crazy?2052 could have been retrofitted to the Tejas since it has a commonailty with 2032 components.What AESA radar is US offering to fit into the Tejas??
The possible commonality with the 2032 could be the back-end and software. As Kramer pointed out this would mean retendeirng and Americans could easily offer the SABR.
What this article underlines is how untrustworthy and unreliable the US would be as a supplier for the MRCA program as well, since Israel is clearly acting under US pressure in this regard. This behaviour of preventing sales of weapons or systems not just from US suppliers, but also from other countries under the US influence in order to push its own agenda is what is most problematic. It always raises the spectre that if in the future India and the US don’t see eye to eye on some major issue, the weapons supplied will be obvious targets for applying pressure. I’m pretty sure that they also pressurised Israel not to sell the Elta 2052 to the South Koreans for the F/A-50 version of the T-50 Golden Eagle, instead offering the Elta 2032.
Elta 2032 components and software are already in use on the MMR used on Tejas Mk1, so the Elta 2052 might have been a logical step forward on Tejas Mk2. Elta and EADS were the only two contenders left in the RFP for partners for LRDE on the Tejas Mk2 AESA radar program. With this news, maybe they’ll withdraw from that RFP as well, leaving EADS as the sole contender, meaning the whole bloody tender will likely need to be re-tendered, adding another 1 year of delay.
I sincerely hope that both the Super Hornet and the F-16 IN Super Viper are shown the door when the MoD announces the shortlisted contenders for the MRCA.
It is not what you think it is I am afraid Kramer. America is offering advanced systems to India so it is not capability denying. Its basically Americans saying that a radar developed with their money Elta E/M 2052 should not compete with radars made by American companies in markets like India.
I certainly do not hope so. What I hope is SAAB’s expertise will make the MK2 a potent platform. And also help in making the AMCA a truelly world class fighter.
I think SAAB would want the deal more than the other big guns because their market is rather small and this would be an ideal way of expanding it.
No one is doubting it will eventually have a weapons bay, that is the whole point of a Stealth fighter. Just that the current prototype lacks one.
Just like the Single Piece Canopy missing on the T 50.
No weapons bays in this prototype. The size of the weapons bay is going to be between that of the Raptor and T 50 I think. There is more space than the Raptor but less than the T 50 because of the closely spaced engines.
Does it say India is among the countries being denied the radar ?
May be The Raven will end up in the LCA MK2 as well.
SAAB talking with ADA for supporting LCA MARK 2
Vishal Kansagra: Are you extending support for indigenous AEW&C system being developed by Center for Airborne Systems (CABS)?
Inderjit Sial: We have not been approached by them. But we are in talks with ADA for supporting LCA Mark.2.
Good news for Gripen Fans
SAAB talking with ADA for supporting LCA MARK 2
http://www.india-defence.com/reports-4940
Vishal Kansagra: Are you extending support for indigenous AEW&C system being developed by Center for Airborne Systems (CABS)?
Inderjit Sial: We have not been approached by them. But we are in talks with ADA for supporting LCA Mark.2.
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T 50 wins on that count !
Congragulations to the Chinese just one year after the T 50 first flight, and the thing looks nearer to production than the T 50 as well.
The way i see it is that. India and Russia have a lot of deals going underhand ie. Below the international radar so that there won’t be issues with various agreements.
And my theory is that, some of the cost escalations for projects like the Gorshkov could indeed be pay offs for such deals, ie. if you pay it under the table people would ask where this money went etc.
Any link to that?
Seems very hard to believe that Russia would “share” something like that, it would not curry any international favor, the system is of critical national importance, not to mention it would not come free. I can only see the December 2010 issue on the website.
See the underlined bit.
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When did they ever say that.
Force Magazine November 10.
May be our allies in Russia have secretly given us SLBM tech. A top Russian offical was talking about sharing the Bulava missile with India.
Bad news for us Gripen and Rafale fans. And for you too scooter :(. Eurofighter seems to be leading accoridng to more sources.
Eurofighter ahead in IAF deal : Tribune Exclusive
Good to know which fighter is IAF’s darling
Incidentally, the IAF ‘top guns’ – after trials at home and abroad – were said to be in favour of Swedish Saab’s Gripen fighters.