He is more believable than any book-writing Air Cmdre, with all due respect, on this topic of “Chinese-Russian entangle on 4th gen fighter”
Talking about 1993 and co-operatoon with Mikoyan they are basically speaking about the MIG MFI, which was a tech demonstrator.
so for you to accuse me of ” spread rumours that Russia first went to China for fifth gen jv” just because you read some glossy magazine got their hands on some partial information… is rather brave of you. as what you think as my “rumours” might actually be true.
Forget the gloss see the Source, A retired Air Cmdre is as credible as they get. Against that what do you have pm messgaes on the internet ?
I just read in March issue of the Force Magazine an article written by Mr.Sengupta (a man of questionable credentials according to some), that the Indian FGFA will be significantly lighter than the PAK FA desptie having a second seat, he also points at less internal fuel and use of Plasma Stealth.
He claims the PAK FA will be 24 tonnes and FGFA 17.2 Tonnes.
I would like to hear you opinions on this (especially the Russian ones).
i.e this was posted just for you because you spread rumours that Russia first went to China for fifth gen jv.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1714665&postcount=306
If its decided on ads. Boeing will win easily.

100 crore = 1 billion
Jang Check your PM.
That will never happen unless we get closer ties with the Americans. I am sure half of them don’t want closer ties because that means more government to government deals less competitions and kickbacks.
More harm is done by delaying contracts, cancelling contracts (look at the Army Artillery Tamasha) etc. than Bribes.
I just hope the competition goes ahead Indian Military need for modernization is more important than petty scams.
Just dropping into say that INDIA & not China was always the preferred partner for Russian fifth gen. Some people linking to a 2006 article don’t make it otherwise.
In February issue of FORCE magazine Air Cmdre Ramesh Phadke states that India was approached first in 2002 & then in 2004 for the same, but was reluctant to join the project then.
How so ?
This has everything to do with poor management and very little to do with the platform itself. And I’m sure the fact that the Typhoon is the most expensive competitor isn’t news to the Indian MoD either. 😉
Actually I was thinking the Rafale was more expensive. :p
This should certainly wreck its MRCA chances.
Eurofighter Typhoon: It’s EVEN WORSE than we thought
RAF gets just 107 jets – and new budget trainwreck looms
Analysis Yesterday the UK National Audit Office published a detailed report on the current status of the infamous Eurofighter combat jet – nowadays officially known as Typhoon. We here on the Reg defence desk have always had a low opinion of the cripplingly expensive, marginally useful fighter: but even we were amazed by the new facts and figures. The Eurofighter, almost unbelievably, is turning out to be even worse value for money than we had thought.
This plane is new and has just been expensively upgraded.It will be scrapped soon.
Probably the most dismal figure we are given is that the RAF will actually put into service just 107 Typhoons. At the moment it has received 70: the last of the 160 planes ordered by the UK will be delivered in 2015. But, we are told, “by 2019” all the Tranche 1 jets (which were still being delivered to the RAF at the start of 2008) will be “retired” – that is, thrown away. We’ll pay for 160 jets (actually we’ll pay for 2321), but we’ll only ever get a fleet of 107.
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