But can you imagine the consequences of combining them, by making one dependent on the other? 😮

I doubt India has any such plans. Especially as Brazil has some defensive cooperation with Pakistan (selling Missiles etc.).

Almost non-existent. The Brazilians can’t really be that stupid. They must know that Indian procurement bureaucracy is so slow & unpredictable that they could end up waiting until everyone concerned has retired or died.

If anything FX and FX-2 is worse than the MRCA circus.

Originally posted by Upandaway at mp.net

Presentation on Gripen flight-testing from a conference in India this January

Starts around 1:20:00

http://aeroindialive.nic.in/show_ondemand.asp?id_episode=4&id_part=4

He is doubting whether HAL can assimilate ToT and manufacturing techniques provided as part of the deal. He is underestimating HAL. In other cases the above is true, MDL has had a tough time assimilating submarine tech from France as part of the Scorpene deal.

They did not commit a howler, they talked amongst themselves about the issue in what was supposed to be a confidential cable.

If you have Wiki leaks for other countries, similar stuff many come out there as well.

Yeah definitely, but it’s not like with the induction of Shaurya (while seeming a formidable system) will magically even out the tables in terms of SRBMs nor IRBMs.

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I’ve read that the deal should be done by July this year… What do people think of this timescale? Not wanting to generalise, but a good number of these programmes get delayed, and India isn’t exactly that speedy with their own procurement based on previous examples and I have a feeling politics may delay the final contract.

The MRCA would be concluded this year, conflicting reports ranging from July to September and the delivery will start 3 years from signing the contract.

I think everything should be in place by early next decade. Most systems in the works should be online by middle-end of this decade but by the start of the next decade India will have sufficient numbers as well. Most importantly India’s Nuclear triad will be well in place.

And India need not even the tables to offer a good deterrent and strike back with enough damage.

fyi, with all due respect I did not bring this line of questions up. :dev2:
he did want those Jags to fly into china.

Actually Jaguars are more suited for the plains than altitude, so more effective in the western border. I was replying to people commenting that they are obsolete, which is far from the case.

That’s the same load, just for a shorter range and 90% in the past maybe, but not with PLAAF and PAF fielding BVR capable fighters with AWACS support!
No matter what, if there is another war, or areal conflict and you send out a strike package, they have to defend themselfs and not only with WVR missiles.
Btw, Mig 27 are on the way to be phased out, only a few squads will be upgraded and the problems with reliability should be obvious.

The Jaguars doing a terrain following low level strike mission can be very hard to intercept. They can also be escorted.

In this video there is a comment from Americans who trained with British Jaguars in Red Flag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ5JdYWopCk&feature=related