So how many RD-93s has China/Pakistan bought in total? 100 initial batch, 100 second batch?
Would also be nice to get confirmation on thrust levels of 2nd batch, and if they indeed RD-93MK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JAMtJOqnzPk
Wow, this is unexpected! The Zaparozhye, the only submarine of the Ukranian Navy, seems to be moving around under its own power, after repairs at a Russian dry dock. Now why this ancient relic is being kept is a mystery to me, but it looks much better than it did before. Not as worried for the sailors on board…
And photos:
http://balancer.ru/sites/s/1/s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20120320/thumbs/SVxIt6TL.jpg.htm
http://balancer.ru/sites/v/m/vmsu.info/ships/zaporozhye/zaporozhye_81_st.jpg.htm
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=270629&download=2
Think the number of take-off and landings is more critical to missile life.
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=270729&download=2
Ivan Gren and Grigorovich.
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=270732&download=2
Ditto.
http://balancer.ru/sites/s/0/s019.radikal.ru/i625/1203/56/a5b8a53afd79.jpg
Great pic, you can see many of the small ASW and missile ships, as well as diesel submarines of the pacific fleet.
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/download/file.php?id=30168&mode=view
Unusual pic of 20380.
http://lenta.ru/news/2012/03/20/cruise/
New air launched cruise missile entering service. I guess it is Kh-101.
http://lenta.ru/news/2012/03/20/testdrive/
Fate of 677 subs will be decided after final trials this year. Main problem now is the propulsion, other things seem to have been resolved.
Hmmm, never realized, both JF-17 and LCA use the same cannon, good old GSh-23-2.
Why is the RD 93 being used then?:confused::confused:
RD 93 is not even close to the F414-400 in terms of MTBO/Life span. Forget the EDE.
Modern versions of RD-33 have life of 4000 hours. Now I am not sure what the life of the RD-93 is, but I don’t think F-414 has THAT much more service life.
RD-33 family is one of the most underrated engines IMO.
Oh wow Japanese, US, S. Korean, German companies. Whatever do they make besides poisonous things like coke and TVs and automobiles and batteries and computers and internet and cellphones and paint and pesticides that they put in wood in houses, detergents, killing machines etc.? 😀 They have turned the world upside down in under 100 years. At this rate, the human race would be poisoned to death within another few hundred years. Did you know almost half of couples have incredible difficulty conceiving children due to poison? Yeah. 😀
And this is why the ignore button exists.
I guess China knows something about poison, given all those recent toxic river spills and all.


Americans? How do you prove that? Not everyone who works at LM is an American. 😉
Oh brother :rolleyes: .
I bet JSLL4 thinks any Chinese-American contribution in LM is a testament to the Chinese state.
As Newton once said “I can see far because I stand on the shoulders of giants.”, the Wright brothers could not have made the first flyable aircraft without Egyptian and Chinese and Greek maths, or without paper invented by Chinese people. 😉
It really hurts you that Americans flew the first DSI, doesn’t it.
As for JF-17, that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it. F-35 is ambitious? Perhaps. But it is also incredibly bureaucratic, including a lot of affirmative action issues involved. I won’t get into politics, but you know the idea.
Not much is known about PL-21, except according to the exhibition board it is scheduled for production this year.
1.) I didn’t mean it as an insult. One can be unimpressive, but still right for the job, at the right time. PAF badly needed the JF-17, so in that sense it can be lauded. LCA is a more ambitious program in many aspects, but in terms of delivery it has been wanting.
2.) No doubt about F-35 mess, but then again, to be expected with a program of that magnitude and depth. What do you mean by affirmative action, in this case?
3.) Exactly why I think it is premature to think it is close to readiness.