F-35 is also incredibly ambitious compared to JF-17, which is probably the least interesting fighter to enter service since the cold war.
Is there any firm evidence of PL-21 launches, testing, anything?
As for Meteor, it’s still under development. On the other hand, JF-17 has been in service since early 2007. 😀
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBDA_Meteor
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/fc1xiaolongjf17thund/
AVIC PL-21 is coming this year BTW http://pic2.chinawestnews.net/0/10/32/85/10328554_888400.jpg
Given that AVIC beat LM in introducing DSI planes to the world, I would be surprised if AVIC doesn’t beat MBDA in introducing ramjet air-to-air to the world
So, you are claiming the PL-21 will enter service this year?
Somehow I find this claim to be bold, to put lightly.
AVIC didn’t beat anyone in introducing DSI, since no one has actually been interested in integrating the technology, to date. Sorry.
Meteor is going to be the best missile for a long long time.
Based on what?
Both Russia and China have future missiles in development.
Russia already has longer ranged weapons entering service, I wouldn’t say they are quite better because they have different roles (RVV-BD, etc).
Anyways, wake me when the JF-17 is actually serially flying with WS-13, AESA, and whatever other magic that has been touted in this thread.
IRST is fading into the backstage again.
No it isn’t. Both the PAK-FA and the F-35, who will have AESA arrays, have IRST. The Rafale and Typhoon integrated them as well over their lifetimes.
JF-17 has brighter future than all MiG-29 and 35 variants too
I would hope so, it came like 2 decades later.

2008
http://aviaforum.ru/showthread.php?t=27147&page=208
Jacked a bunch of nice photos from here ^
Su-27SM with Kh-29!
Su-24 with something not often seen 😉
Ditto for MiG-29UB
Loaded up Su-24
Some sexy Mi-28 shots from last year:
http://russianplanes.net/ID63073
http://russianplanes.net/ID62059
excellent thread. the JF-17 is clearly superior to the F-22, as proven by this youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii6sU8-G8y8
bottomline : one shouldn’t insult the JF-17 by comparing it with clearly inferior aircraft like the Gripen.
Can you imagine how badly Tejas would get trashed by PAF JF-17s?
Frankly I don’t think even FGFA will be enough.
DSI or bust baby.
Why, JF17 of course — It has DSI! 😀
Don’t forget the Generation Zwei radar- the amazing cockpit, the STATE OF THE ART WS-10 engine, and devastating PLA A2A missiles.
The answer is clear.
Hi Gatofrey,
I am little bit confused- where did you get that photo originally?
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=269890&download=2
Grigorovich hull almost completed!
http://russianplanes.net/ID70162
Su-25, Sudan.
