I think he meant that Russia wont develop some fifth gen. techs such as new engine, one piece canopy, tapes over rivets etc. etc.., maybe India has to pay a majority share for these items, to put them on FGFA. I wont be surprised if this is the case. I dont know what is written in the contract but Russia might not be interested in some things that IAF want. So those things will be developed for Indian version (FGFA). Have to wait for his article.

That is pure nonsense and fantasy. Russia is making a definitive PAK-FA, Indian money or no Indian money.

People seem to have this misguided idea the FGFA will be what the Su-30MKI was to the original Flanker.

Whoever that blog poster is, he is drinking some Indian nationalistic coolaid, that’s for sure.

Your points have been countered, other arguments brought up, but whats the use? You have exposed yourself a complete troll. Good job.

Let me summarize your argument “China chose it (sorry, stole it), it is the better airframe! “. Whatever helps you sleep easier.

Oh but I forgot, Koschei has details regarding every performance parameter of both the Fulcrum and the Flanker as it applies to carrier aviation, as well as complete knowledge of the internal decision making process and experience of both the Indian and Russian MODs. Move along folks, this guy knows all!

Oh, and still waiting for your response in the Indian aviation thread.

It is weird that Russian fans here are down playing their primary airdom “hi” fighter derivative to their secondary short legged “lo” fighter one. Interesting…

Actually, if you chose to read, nobody is downplaying anything.
I am sorry if not taking these claims (by supporters of one nation in particular, funny that 😉 ) of obvious Su-33 superiority means downplaying.

Further Hi-Low is non applicable fantasy if talking about the system the aircraft were introduced in (or operated in today in the RuAF). More like “short range” and “long range”.

I’m frankly surprised at the Apache’s victory because I thought the Mi-28 had more-than-adequate performance for Indian needs plus a distinct cost advantage.

There was also the promise of future upgrades, like a new laser/IR turret for the Crysanthema ATGM, new engines and (according to Igorr) a wing-launched UAV.

They wanted a helo right now, a bunch of Mi-28 systems are not completely finished yet, so it makes sense I guess. Interesting to see what Mi-28NM looks like.

You had an issue with my post regarding innovation and how it is more than outside form…supposedly because of my attitude in the J-15/whatever thread, and how that is hypocritical. I replied that the J-15 was a **** poor example of innovation. Who is the one attacking now?

This thread had nothing to do with the J-15 btw, well done.

and this is from a man who yells “carbon copy rip-off” at the first sighting of J-15.

Oh sweet jesus. I never used the term carbon copy actually, check again.

What I called it, was a rip-off. Which it is. Calling the J-15 an example of Chinese “innovation” would be pathetic.

Yes, they have committed to 20 new airframes.