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October 30, 2011 at 9:53 pm in reply to: Russian Aviation thread, part V #2375385

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Program is going ahead, they found enough customers to pass minimum point, 40 I think airframes.

RR engines for RuAF An-124, come on now Levsha.

October 30, 2011 at 9:24 pm in reply to: Boeing vs Eurofighter vs Lockheed for KFX #2375411

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Boring Boring !!! not a lot of design or innovation in that little lot !!! all a bit 1990’s

Design and innovation usually goes deeper than external appearances. 😉

October 30, 2011 at 9:22 pm in reply to: Russian Aviation thread, part V #2375416

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“Самолет будет оснащен модернизированными двигателями Д-18Т серии 3М, оборудованными цифровой системой управления FADEC с полной ответственностью, ресурсом 50000 часов и 11111 циклов. Экологические характеристики двигателя будут доработаны до международных требований по уровню эмиссии вредных веществ, в соответствии с требованиями Приложения 16 ИКАО том 2 (с поправкой по 6-ю включительно) и шуму, с обеспечением требований главы IV Приложения 16 ИКАО.”

Modernized D-18T, with fully autonomous FADEC, resource 50,000 hours and 11,111 cycles. Ecological, noise standards, blah blah.

October 30, 2011 at 9:19 pm in reply to: MiG-29KUB vs Su-33/J-15 #2375419

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How many people know that the V2 diesel engine in the Soviet T-34 tank is basically copied from a French airship diesel propulsion unit!:eek:

And the US copied Soviet stealth research! Oh wait, that has nothing to do with the thread.

October 30, 2011 at 9:17 pm in reply to: Russian Aviation thread, part V #2375425

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Apparently at the : Kiev National Aeronautics Institute.

The placement is temporary.

October 30, 2011 at 9:08 pm in reply to: MiG-29KUB vs Su-33/J-15 #2375446

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ok it is a rip-off are you happy.

so beside making everyone to use the word “rip-off”. or else heap mounts of ridicule upon any one who takes a nuianced view….

what is your value added contribution to sum of our knowledge about anything today? none-zilch-nada-lin

About as much as your land of denial.

Oop, sorry “nuanced” view.

October 30, 2011 at 9:04 pm in reply to: Russian Aviation thread, part V #2375454

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http://russianplanes.net/images/to58000/057563.jpg

Su-27SMs, nice photo.

http://russianplanes.net/images/to58000/057568.jpg

Also, D-18T.

October 30, 2011 at 9:03 pm in reply to: MiG-29KUB vs Su-33/J-15 #2375461

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And it is still a rip-off at the end of the day. And no one in the ex-USSR denies that.

October 30, 2011 at 8:58 pm in reply to: MiG-29KUB vs Su-33/J-15 #2375476

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Yep. And no one is in denial that it is a blatant copy.

None of this “hurr durr, it had better defensive guns! its more of a modernization11” nonsense.

Nice try though.

October 30, 2011 at 8:52 pm in reply to: MiG-29KUB vs Su-33/J-15 #2375482

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Yep. How dare anyone question if the mighty Chinese aviation complex (known for ALL those world class platforms) can replicate and supersede EVERY SINGLE performance characteristic of the plane it ripped-off. What an unreasonable point to bring up.

Whatever. At least I don’t live in denial.

October 30, 2011 at 8:45 pm in reply to: MiG-29KUB vs Su-33/J-15 #2375496

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Agreed Teer. The J-15 matching the Su-33 in all parameters is certainly a reasonable question.

October 30, 2011 at 8:38 pm in reply to: Russian Aviation thread, part V #2375506

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They only ordered 4, and that’s it. It was part of the 2009 deal with Sukhoi.

They are ordering more Su-30SM, from Irkut, while we are at it. 😉

Su-35 will outproduce the Su-30 in RUAF, that is certain at this point.

October 30, 2011 at 8:34 pm in reply to: Chinese pilot practicing carrier ops on Kuznetsov #2375524

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Teer: FM1 for the Su-33s. Should be a nice power boost.

October 30, 2011 at 8:17 pm in reply to: Russian Aviation thread, part V #2375549

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Very similar.

Uganda too recently.

October 30, 2011 at 8:10 pm in reply to: MiG-29KUB vs Su-33/J-15 #2375558

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At least calling J-15 a copy or rip off from Su-33 is a bit flawed, maybe upgrade would be a better word >_>

You can upgrade a copy (not like modern avionics and uprated are a huge upgrade, but that aside), but that still makes it largely a complete rip off. Ok, modernized rip-off. Much better.

If Russia took the F-15A, put on 117S and Bars on it, hell, lets say ECM pods for the “structural difference” argument, it is still a blatant copy.

Upgrade is Su-27SM from Su-27. What is so hard to understand, honestly?
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