Boiky looking good!
Work is unfortunately going much slower on Gorshkov:
F-35 is smaller dimensionally, but not by a gigantic margin.
I can’t imagine the average Su-24M in the fleet today would have many (if any) more hours than the Su-27. There are still plenty of late production Su-27s that could get SM3ed or whatever. If the ground attack capability is as good as advertised, it might be even more useful than a Su-24M2.
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2011/10/21/su24/
WTF?
I thought Su-24 modernization was over. The article says however:
-VVS has decided to accelerate Su-24 modernization
-Modernization time frame was supposed to be 15 years, will now be 10
-By 2020, 60-70% of the Su-24 fleet will be replaced by the Su-34, the rest will modernized to M2 level.
-Final decision on the Su-24 modernization not yet reached. Decision might hinge on results of the investigation into the recent crash.
-RuAF currently has 40 Su-24M2.
-Another 20-30 aircraft will be modernized in the next 3-4 years, allowing the aircraft to fly until 2020-2025.
Is Su-27 modernization over, or not?
They are bigger, have a bigger payload, and let’s not even talk about armor levels.
Just look at the engine power, it is not higher randomly.
Naval PAK-FA would be better :dev2: .
Also, only till 2025? You sure you did not mean 2035?
I still do not understand why they are going ahead with both Mi-28 and Ka-52, they may have some slight advantage and disadvantage in some areas, but its not good enough reason to justify two attack helicopters unless Russia was trying to subsidize both companies to keep them busy. Just like how the US doesn’t really need both AH-1Z and AH-64
1.) They are both cool, don’t complain. 😉
2.) Factory production capability per year. Easier to produce both than set up another line for either chopper.
3.) Factory employment and future stability
4.) I suspected they would order a number of both and see which does better in service, I guess so much for that.
5.) I don’t think the Zulu Cobra comparison is really analogous here, because the Cobra/Apache split has to do with different service branch requirements, deployment specifics, and funding.
Apparently a lot, the current breakdown as we know it is:
97 Mi-28N through 2015, more after. Total number around 200 was floated.
Ka-52 has current contract for 30 airframes through 2012, but recently it was voiced that total numbers maybe around 120. Also, Naval Ka-52 is going to be procured.
Finally there is a current order for 22 Mi-35M.
There is also the small batch of Mi-24PN, but that program seems to be dead.
In other former Soviet countries, Azerbaijan seems to be pretty much the clear winner. They ordered what, 24 Mi-35Ms, and how many Super Hinds do they have? Aside from Russia and Azerbaijan the CIS countries rely completely on legacy Mi-24.
Brah….RuAF is ordering two seated Su-34 (ok, you want to call it a theater bomber? how about:), Su-30SM, Su-25UBM…all two seater mud movers. So apparently another big AF is OK with 2 seats, even in 2010.
EDIT: Fk, I responded to the bait.
How do you know I am not a brother 😉 ?
Source for fuel figure?
@ Blitzo, that’s kinda what I figured, was hoping there was some good Chinese book on the subject or something.
Still waiting for JH-7 internal fuel figures, guys, hook a brother up.
And just ignore teh trolls.
http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/338/QzVVM.jpg
http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/338/OAssO.jpg
http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/338/SOaww.jpg
While not exactly showing the entire covered up area, I think these pics are the closest we have.
Also I would take the Spey202/WS-9 over the inefficiant leaky RD-33 any day of the week.
Care to back up how it is inefficient and leaky?
EDIT: I think JSR master trolled you all. Just move on.
They want 3 billion for the Kazan? Someone is smoking something green @ Sevmash, and it ain’t weed.
http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2011/10/19/590/
“The naval version of Ка-52 requires long range of acquisition and capability of using anti-ship missiles of Ð¥-31 and Ð¥-35 type.”
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