I run a very small sideline business using ebay and have done for nearly 7 years now.
I have virtually stopped using ebay as my main selling site and I can tell you it is 100% down to their stupid fee system and even worse their Paypay fees which makes it an unviable proposition to sell what I sell.

The only thing in ebay’s favour is the selling coverage you get Nationally and although I don’t…. Worldwide.

I have also noticed over the last year that many regular seller’s now no longer bother for the same reasons as I have stated.

Have to agree.

I buy a lot on Ebay, stuff that usually keeps my businesses running and research material for my book.

Recently however, most small businesses push for the buyer to deal directly once first contact has been made, which I now do.

Ebay is pricing itself out of the market, it will end up like a giant car boot sale.

it’s only IMO

Baz

So u managed to ask to hundreds of vets what they thought of the atomic bomb? Interesting.

No, but it did come up in conversation from time to time (normally towards the end) usually when they showed relief of not going to the FE. I never recalled on any occasion however, criticism of the bombing (of Japan).

Sadly some people on this forum will no longer engage you in conversation due to your aggressive and sarcastic responses.
No-one is knocking your belief son, its the continual bombardment of the defence of your belief, which makes it tiresome.

If you are just trying to ruin this thread on the grounds you don’t like or believe it, go to the Mods and complain.

We all now get that there is another side to the Atomic bombs, you have got that across, well.

Please can we get back to the original thread as that was quite interesting too.

AlexT

I had an incredibly pleasant talk with a WW2 vet, who did the D-Day and marched his way to Germany, and his comments about what happened in Germany and Japan were the same as mine.. talking to people like that might actually help you open your minds a bit and understand that everything that was done during the war was not always right..

How pompous of you!

My dad ‘did D-Day and marched his way to Germany’ and his views were nothing like yours.

Over the last thirty years I’ve spoken to hundreds of WW2 vets RAF, Army and Navy ( including Jap POWs ) and funnily enough, their views were nothing like yours either.

that is the totally wrong approach to history. Witnesses of the era are valuable, but it’s not on those that you can write history.

Bit baffled by this statement.

History of the second world war was recorded by witnesses, military and civilian.

Nearly everything that happened during the war was documented in some way, by a ‘witness’.
Only by correlating all these witness statements can historians make sense of what actually happened.

I am sure that very few of the people involved in the drop of the atomic bombs had something to be proud of. What we probably don’t understand is actually the burden they had to bring on their souls for the rest of their lives. When you are not in public, far from the military glory, alone in your bed, and think about what you have done and seen in a war… I don’t think all vets have that patriotic view after all, because what their country asked them to do was far from human.
I am not saying the people involved were criminals, they were faithful and obeying soldiers and scientists who did what they were asked, even when the result of their action would have been criminal. The responsibility and burden on their conscience was on a different scale, and many scientists were really disturbed by the final use of their research.

conjecture(according to your rules), nothing historical here, as you were not there how do you know?…..ah that would be witness accounts that you read from a historical book.

Richard gray

AlexT
I don’t know if what you have posted on this thread are your genuine feelings or just a way to wind people up.
If they are your genuine feelings then I am thankful that people of your ilk, did not have any great input to any decisions made by the allies in WW2.

If it wasn’t for people like (Bomber) Harris and the people involved in the Manhatten project (and others you slur with insinuations of war crimes), we would in all probability not exist today. Have to agree with Richard here, I’m glad they used the atom bomb to shorten the war and save allied lives. The consequence of which frightened the world not to use them in anger since.

AlexT
my impression is that you are deliberately being blind. You are masking your thirst for retribution (they gave us hell, so have some of this now!) with all this nonsense.

Retribution would have been 30 bombs…50 bombs

The Americans dropped only 2

Kev35
…………………… I try to view the war through the eyes, attitudes and morality of those who actually fought the war. Hindsight is a dangerous thing. We cannot apply our morals and attitudes to the events of sixty odd years ago. We have to look at it through the eyes of those who experienced it.

Agreed……we haven’t been starved for the last 4 years, bombed into shelters, losing loved ones, friends and neighbours on a daily basis ( you would have a different mindset if you had)

Why don’t we also celebrate the Dresden bombing then? :rolleyes:

we do………..every year, 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.

We remember all our boys who did not make it home, who fought and died to give you the freedom of speech, freedom of self expression, freedom of movement and in your case the freedom to whinge and wind up this forum.

Wasn’t the Second Army and Chugoku Regional Army were headquartered in Hiroshima, and the Army Marine Headquarters was located at Ujina port? The city also had large depots of military supplies, and was a key center for shipping. (used wiki here, saved time)

Wasn’t Nagasaki one of the Japs biggest military Naval Dock yards?(etc)

So wasn’t entirely a civilian target

Oh well better get my tin hat and climb into my Anderson shelter, reckon I’ve got incoming….

Baz

……….but mainly the pheasants that the rich tossers breed to blast out of the sky for a bit of fun, and of course vast profits to themselves.

just spotted that:D….LMHO

thats where I live, out in the countryside, next to a rich t………..:D:D

Bumblebee, enjoy the moment, don’t move them on, there is no neighbourly reason to do so.

cheers Baz