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September 17, 2008 at 12:42 pm in reply to: A Picture for Handley Page fans #1205774

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Found some more about the aircraft.

G-EAKE Handley Page O/400 (HP-22) Birmingham 1918
Originally built for RAF under Contract No 35a/3358/C3929 by Birmingham
Carriage Co Ltd with serial J2252 but after initial 30 minute acceptance
check with 14 Aircraft Acceptance Park, placed in storage at Castle
Bromwich. One of 12 purchased by Handley Page from the Aircraft Disposals
Board and Regd 14.8.19 (CofR No 265) to Handley Page Ltd. Partial
conversion only to civil standards with 10 seats and no windows and CofA No 159 issued 16.8.19. Left Cricklewood 24.8.19 for Scandinavian demonstration tour.

However on 6.9.19 an engine cut on take-off at Lillesand and a forced
landing made between two houses with no injuries to the 8 occupants.
Eventually rebuilt and flown to Stockholm 28.6.20. The next day during
severe weather a wing was damaged on landing at Orebro. After patching the
wing damage, on take-off the next day an engine cut again and it crashed
and was burnt out, again with no serious casualties to the occupants. Marks

Between 24.8.1919 and 6.9.1919 it must have stopped in Copenhagen for a spell.

September 17, 2008 at 12:32 pm in reply to: A Picture for Handley Page fans #1205793

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A suttle difference in time…..

So an O/400 it is then.

September 17, 2008 at 12:24 pm in reply to: A Picture for Handley Page fans #1205896

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Is there a difference between O/400 and H.P.12?

September 15, 2008 at 6:49 pm in reply to: Ex-Australian Air Force 707 mystery #1207565

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Didn’t someone operate a luxury DC-8, as kind of a cruise-plane back in the 90’s?

Who is working on it?

You don’t just restore a 707 out on the grass, so some company is involved.

September 15, 2008 at 11:50 am in reply to: Spitfire Auction – merged #1208207

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I understand your feeling of “oddness”.

Surely there are plenty of historic aviation enthusiasts in China, so adding a Spitfire to the museum would be a boon (even if China never operated the Spit).

From what I can find about the museum, the money could have been better used to upgrade and restore their current exhibition, which is mostly outside:

http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/museums/126479.htm

http://rides.webshots.com/album/552886023ESzYOD

Although from this “newsflash”:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelsonmail/4693474a6510.html

We read: “The Chinese party intends to display the plane in a museum, to be established in Beijing.”

September 15, 2008 at 10:35 am in reply to: Spitfire Auction – merged #1208231

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But it would be the first flying ‘warbird’ in China, unless someone knows different?

It seems an odd plan to say the least.

Odd to use it for static display, or odd to fly it?

Seems alot of money for a static aircraft, even a Spitfire. Although it saves the restoration work.

September 15, 2008 at 10:11 am in reply to: Spitfire Auction – merged #1208243

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Err…….according to that report in the OP.

He plans to donate the fighter to the China Aviation Museum in Beijing.

So, airworthy is not on the cards….;)

It would not be the first museum with a flying exhibit.

September 15, 2008 at 5:57 am in reply to: Spitfire Auction – merged #1208347

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So a flying BoB Spit is now $6-7 million……….sigh!

I never realised that there was a private interest in warbirds in China. Good news, as it might lead to some search and recover operations throughout China. I’m fairly sure they must have a good few wrecks (how do you say barnfind in chinese?) scattered around that waste country.

Good luck to Mr.Subritzky and family, with their next restoration, and good luck to Mr.Gao with his new Spitfire, hopefully it will become airworthy, even if its not going to be at legends 09.

September 14, 2008 at 7:10 am in reply to: How to stop a Stearman.. #1209561

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I bet that feels a lot better.

September 14, 2008 at 6:58 am in reply to: A questionable technical drawing #1209566

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Bless your eyesight JDK.

I had the tail marking as a cross, but I see the swastika outline now that you say it.

Seller mailed me and said the Spitfire has Dec 1940 as print date.

Thanks to Ryan for the links.

At 25£ a pop, I might put down a bid….

September 13, 2008 at 8:31 pm in reply to: Spitfire Auction – merged #1209883

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Time to sell my empty bottles and cash in……..

September 13, 2008 at 8:28 pm in reply to: A questionable technical drawing #1209887

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I think they are a little too elaborate for recognition models. Why would the Spitfire be specific to K5054, when no German would ever meet that aircraft?

The drawings above look more like recognition models. They are not made with too many unimportant details, that can confure the “spotter”, but with attention to specific design features, that makes them easy to recognise.

I also find the lack of wartime markings on the Storch to point towards post-war period, where those markings were illegal.

September 13, 2008 at 6:01 pm in reply to: A questionable technical drawing #1210040

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They look like plans for building kids’ toys out of wood. I remember a few years back there was a magazine which had pull-out plans for building a Spit and a Messerschmitt 109 – they looked quite similar.

The end results were quite nice, too, though I never attempted to build my own.

So you are guessing, that they are not wartime, but a later magazine pull-out?

Sounds likely.

Also looks post-war as the Storch has a D reg and what appears to be red cross markings (not luftwaffe).

September 13, 2008 at 4:42 pm in reply to: A questionable technical drawing #1210060

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The Spitfire might be of interest, if it truely is a wartime german model drawing.

Unfortunatly I can’t read the registration, but I can mail the seller. Could be funny if that bird was still around.

September 13, 2008 at 4:37 pm in reply to: A questionable technical drawing #1210063

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Yup they look like model plans to me,… being of German origin the instructions had to be carried out to the letter no doubt!!

Or else!
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