http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Republic_of_China

“…The United States Department of Defense reported that in Taiwan, “proponents of strikes against the mainland apparently hope that merely presenting credible threats to China’s urban population or high-value targets, such as the Three Gorges Dam, will deter Chinese military coercion.”

As soon as China launched an invasion of Taiwan there would be massive launches of Taiwanese cruise missiles against China’s 3 Gorges Dam. China should think carefully before attacking Taiwan. Taiwan knows it may fall but they plan on taking China with them.

Do Taiwanese cruise missiles have the range to hit Three Gorges Dam? Three Gorges Dam is defended by up to 100,000 soldiers, 1,000 HQ-9 air defense missiles and countless other units.

The United States Department of Defense underestimate Chinese resolve to take Taiwan. China is willing to sacrifice up to 500 million people to take Taiwan. How many people is America wiling to sacrifice to defend Taiwan?

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Taiwanese don’t care if Taiwan is a province of China or not. Type 055, launch in 2014 or 2015, rendered. So called aircraft carrier killer.

I seriously doubt you can speak for everyone in Taiwan, but who knows??? Also, you’re delusional if you think a single ship can take out a U.S. CBG. Carriers never fight alone, remember. Even if the PLAN musters up enough of a fleet to take on a CBG, there is the aircraft of that CBG’s CAW to contend with as well. Taking down a carrier isn’t impossible, but it is astronomically far from easy.

The question comes down to, how many lives are American people willing to sacrifice over Taiwan, an island that has NOTHING to do with Americans whatsoever but EVERYTHING to do with Chinese. Chinese won’t ever give up on Taiwan. Can’t say the same about Americans. Unlike the UK which stopped attacking America and recognized America’s independence in 1783, China won’t stop attacking Taiwan and would rather nuke all of Taiwan than recognize it as a country. :eagerness:

Relying on MANPADs and ATGMs is not the answer for Taiwanese defenders. These weapons can only be used during day time when you can see. At night, attack helicopters like WZ-10 would prowl around and MANPAD can no longer be used because cannot see and aim at night.

…and that is a good reason why you are not in charge of the PRC’s foreign policy towards Taiwan.

It is the wish of all Chinese and Taiwanese people. Those who oppose are traitors. Their fate will be the same as those French who collaborated with Nazi Germany. :applause:

Ah i see, you want to go on the ignore list. Fine no problem.

I even went and found you these which if you had any interest in actually knowing anything would be of interest, particularly in the light of your assertation that the US does not have any CIWS equivalent to the chinese thingy…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TY-90#FL-3000N

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-116_Rolling_Airframe_Missile

No existing US cruiser, destroyer, frigate is equipped with RIM CIWS. It is co developed with Germany. German warships have those.

I hate to tell you but Taiwan already is its own nation. Just because China doesn’t see it that way don’t make it so. Taiwan has a fully functional government, rule of law and organized society. Their air defense could just use some F-15’s and F-35’s down the line.

Let’s go. A country some 0.3% the size of another can never win a war against the bigger. :rolleyes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area

That is just a list of what is fitted to the 052D not how well they perform or how well integrated they are. Every single item on board has a US equivalent.

You have again made a meaningless assertion!

What do you base your assertion on?

Considering you are just posting lists without any evidence to support your assertions I might as well say the USS Constitution outperforms the 052D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constitution

Again back your assertions up with actual evidence or expect them to be dismissed.

No existing US cruiser or destroyer or frigate has RIM CIWS and AESA, which Type 052D has. :eagerness:

Tell me what systems are fitted to the 052D and what their performance is. If you can’t do that then you can’t assert its superiority to anything.

How good is its CMS? What is the radar performance? How well integrated are the different systems and weapons? What is the relative performance of those weapons? How well built is the vessel? How good are its c4i systems? How good are its elint systems? What is the performance of its ECM/ECM?

Until you give those answers you can’t just say it is superior or give a vague demand to show a US vessel that is superior?

You keep on stating that Chinese equipment is superior without ever qualifying that with evidence.

Type 052D has AESA, RIM and Type 730 CIWS, 2 * 32 cells VLS, 130 mm stealthy gun, advanced sonar. These are all more advanced than Arleigh Burke Flight IIA. Only Arleigh Burke Flight III whose construction is planned to begin in 2016 can match Type 052D in technology.