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  • in reply to: China wants to make Su-35 clones? #2313103
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    J-17 is a stealthy Flanker that should be on paper superior to Su-35.

    in reply to: J-20 Thread 7 #2314033
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    Detection tracking range changes with the fourth root of power and RCS;

    A 90% reduction in RCS approximately halves the range of radar, a 10-fold increase in radar power approximately doubles the range of radar.

    The combined transmission and reception of the J-20 radar would have to be 10 times better than that of a F-22 or F-35 in order to compensate for an order of magnitude RCS inferiority.

    radar radar radar….. I’m sick of it. China and the US can never go to war with each other :rolleyes:

    in reply to: J-20 Thread 7 #2317231
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    RCS is dependent on what radar is used for doing the testing. Typhoon’s radar is far more powerful than F-4’s radar for example.

    in reply to: J-20 Thread 7 #2319122
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    One other thing: no one has radome measurements? According to studies made on the J-20’s canards, the J-20’s RCS cannot be below 0.001 m^2 on the frontal sector because that’s the RCS contribution of composite radar transparent canards. This is an order of magnitude less than the F-35 and F-22, which means that for frontal RCS, the J-20 will be detected at twice the range it would be able to detect the F-35 or F-22 with comparable radar. Consequently, the radar of the J-20 would need to be significantly larger than the F-35 / F-22 radar to compensate.

    In the case of the F-35, this can be relatively easy since the F-35 only has 1200 T/R modules. In the case of the F-22, however, the F-22’s APG-77v2 will have up to 2200 TR modules and it would be hard for the J-20’s radar to significantly outsize the F-22 to obtain equal detection ranges.

    Lockheed Martin can claim all sorts of numbers, doesn’t mean they are all real :rolleyes:. F-22 is over 40,000 pounds of metal, very much doubt it has RCS as small as a marble.

    in reply to: J-20 Thread 7 #2334942
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    If you remember how long it took J-10 official specs/dimensions to be released, you are in for a very LOOONG wait. 2006, J-10 became official, 2009 came the 1st official values for length, width etc. :diablo: :dev2:

    It seem a PLAAF general had given the value 20.3m during IIRC a CCTV interview, but whether he was just messing with or not is another matter. I constantly here the J-20 (without pitot) is at least 2m longer than the F-22 (21m-22m). So don’t hold your breath for any official stuff. They’ll keep us guessing for a long time. 😀

    One thing, the F-22 is misleading because its engine nozzles are several meters in from the rear edge of the horizontal stabs. Little PhotoShoping and you can make F-22 look longer than it is without actually changing the overall length.

    J-20 is huge compared to J-10, that’s all you need to know. 😀

    in reply to: J-20 Thread 7 #2338661
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    J-20 is 21.26 meters long, excluding pitot, according to official brochure

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Fo0_NIwP0Ms/Tucj9-EA0CI/AAAAAAAAGVA/E9lH9vMmE8E/s1600/J-20+Mighty+Dragon++specifications+details+information+brochure+Chengdu+J-20+fifth+generation+stealth%252C+twin-engine+fighter+aircraft+prototype+People%2527s+Liberation+Army+Air+Force++OPERATIONAL+weapons+aam+bvr+miss.jpg

    in reply to: F-35 News thread. Part Deux #2338666
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    the F-35 shown above looks like its got its pitot tube in the same position as on the first prototype of J-20. would production units even have a pitot tube at all?

    in reply to: China awaits fighter export breakthrough #2286527
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    FC-20 is said to be future designation of PAF J-10s (if they ever get exported there)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10

    well there’s no official source 😉

    in reply to: F-22 deployment to the gulf being reported #2286560
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    in reply to: China awaits fighter export breakthrough #2286566
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    I thought the J-10b is going to be exported to Pakistan as the FC-20?

    JF-17 is exported to Pakistan. NO such thing as FC-20 :rolleyes:

    in reply to: F-22 deployment to the gulf being reported #2286568
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    in reply to: China awaits fighter export breakthrough #2286813
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    J-20 and J-10B are not for export. JF-17 and early J-10A are for export.

    in reply to: F-22 deployment to the gulf being reported #2286814
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    um, it did that all the time in Kosovo and Iraq.

    btw, the same “not a single xxx was lost in Libya” can be said for a lot of planes and they did not use jamming.

    Iraq shot down over 20 American planes with technology that were 20+ years behind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_combat_losses_of_United_States_military_aircraft_since_the_Vietnam_War

    Buk-M2E which is a 2000s system can easily shoot down F-22s and B-2s.

    Yugos also managed to shoot down several American planes including an F-16C and 2 A-10s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War

    in reply to: F-22 deployment to the gulf being reported #2286877
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    btw, if a second F-117 was hit by gunfire, that just reinforces my point. They had to get into gun range before being in serious trouble.

    eh I’d like to see F-117 fly over enemy territory without EW jamming. Not a single Rafale was lost over Libya simply because of the power of Spectra.

    in reply to: F-22 deployment to the gulf being reported #2286886
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    The F-117 that was shot down was at 13km distance and flying the same route it had done before.

    Nobody claims that 5th gen fighters are invisible, just that the range at which you can detect them are extremely small. The aforementioned 13km would be classified as such.

    On the night of the F-117’s loss, it was in a flight of 8 F-117s. If it were so easy to detect, why were none of the others shot down that night (or ever since)?

    Only 59 F-117As were ever built, and 6 of these already crashed prior to 1999, so how can 8 of them be deployed in 1 mission at the same time? :confused:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_Nighthawk

    Furthermore, another F-117 was damaged by gunfire though it wasn’t shot down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War

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