More..
Five more from that day.
It seems likit was a good day.
It’s a shame I didn’t make a few notes or something.
There’s a lesson there!!!
Andy
1986…
Stringbag
We’ll go with 1986.
Can anyone confirm North Weald???
Andy
Stringbag
you may well be correct but I had a feeling these were a bit later than that.
Any possibility of 1988??
The next five were taken at the same show.
The P-51 appears to have a passenger aboard.
All the best
Andy
Andy,
Regarding the Voss Dr.1, not wanting rake up old arguments, but not knowing that this is arguements over the Voss machine, is it over what shade of green or whether it was green at all….. :confused:
Firebird
I think the argument is over the colour of the engine cowling.
I think it all started when a well known Great War historian/author stated that it was yellow.
I have no clue as to where he got that information.
Presumably someone else who can read colour into B&W prints.
Cheers
Andy
Siemans Schuckert.
Hi Jim
Glad you could join us.
The Siemans Schuckert series of fighters did hold out great potential but as Melv I think said the rotary engine was at the end of it’s design lifespan and castor oil was in short supply by 1918 in Germany.
Also the Siemans Halske Sh III engine was hellish complicated and prone to cooling problems. That’s why the cowlings on the SSW series fighters were always chopped down to just that sort of spidery cowl. Originally they were close cowled but had to be withdrawn while modifications were carried out.
Also despite what has been written I think they suffered pretty badly from rotary torque problems and spun like tops.
I think the D.III got into service but the even better D.IV was just a bit too late.
The most famous SSW D.III pilot was Ernst Udet who had one marked with his ‘Lo’ insignia.
Lo was the name of his first wife I think an opera singer called Lo Zink.
If you think Great War people get their knickers in a twist over Von R’s triplane colours you should try to get agreement on the colours of this aircraft and as for the colour of the Voss Dr.I—just don’t OK.
Cheers
Andy
PS I’ve often wondered why Castor Oil was so short in Germany. Perhaps after eating all that sausage and Sauerkraut they had upset stomachs!!!
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All Red…
Melv
who actually wrote the Datafile Special??
It sounds like there may be some ‘really’ new stuff in the that.
Andy
Pictures.
Alex
Great Pictures.
Especially the last one.
Cheers
Andy
Red Triplane.
Alex
I reckon you’ve got a point.
Just the upper surfaces as I said earlier but also just the upper surface of the upper wing.
I reckon that’s a pretty fair assessment.
Years ago I read an interview with a man who had been a mechanic on the squadron and his recollection was that Red dope/paint was in such short supply that only the upper parts of the aircraft (both Von R’s Albatros and Triplanes) were ever red.
Your triplane looks pretty good by the way.
Thanks
Andy
Oshkosh??
always liked the Magister.
Logans Run=good
The one where she’s lost in the Australian outback=better.
Can’t remember the name of that one though.
Oh and Melv.
Here’s a couple of pictures to help keep the Autumn chill away while you spend the darkening evenings at Popham with the Rearwin. 😉 😉 😉 🙂 🙂
What was exact appearance and markings of the definitive “all red” paint scheme on von Richtofens aircraft? I seem to have seen various takes on it. Can anyone shed any light?
James
I think at this distance in time there may be no definitive answer to that question.
After due consideration of everything I’ve read and heard (and discounted) I’ve concluded that that Von Richtofen was flying Fokker Dr.I S/no 425/17 when he was killed.
Beyond that much else is only guess work.
As to colour I think the aircraft upper surfaces were painted a shade of red (exact shade unknown).
I personally doubt the under surfaces were red–more likely to have been sky blue as finished by Fokkers.
Unlike many ‘experts’ I cannot conclude the exact Methuen colour reference of aircraft from 85 year old black and white prints–if only I could.
I suppose I could make them up like Rodney Gerrard did.
Melv–your turn.
Andy
And now you have me thinking of Jenny Agutter in the shower . . .
Down Boy!!–Down.
Looks like a forum trip to recover parts then.
Yeah Learning,
as long as we can recover his data plates we can rebuild the rest from new!!
Anyone got a supply of CAA approved airframe quality tweed?
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Dave
Yes there is, it’s in France.
Melv can tell you much, much more than me but try this link
http://memorial.flight.free.fr/indexuk.html
Yes and ‘The Twenty Minuters’ was brilliant.
I love that whole series.
I’ll bash out some more Great War engine stuff later if you’re still interested.
Cheers
Andy 🙂 🙂 🙂
Pictures…
Wonderful Stuff Tim.
Thanks 🙂 🙂