Southern Cross…

Sea Fury Southern Cross now owned by our own Steve Patterson came out of Irag too.
So there’s at least two.
Cheers
Andy

Mrs AIB.

MOTF
I’ll pass on your kind words to Mrs AIB.
A forum meet at Old Rhinebeck does seem a jolly good idea.
I can’t believe I’ve never been there.
Cheers
Andy 🙂 🙂 🙂

Comments..

F6F
I speak as I find mate.
The pictures were good and I like the subject material.
I think the term Golden Flyer might have been given to one specific aircraft of the Curtiss pusher type.
Neat design though.
Can anyone tell me if the shoulder pads are the rudder bar or elevators?

This type of aircraft made the first take off from a ship on November 14th 1910 when Eugene Ely flew one off a temporary flight deck on the USS Birmingham (CL-2).
On January 18th 1911 Ely also made the first succesful landing on a ship when he landed on the USS Pennsylvania (again a temporary flight deck).
Strangely Ely was a civilian working for Glen Curtiss and not a member of the USN.
Andrew O will tell you that I’m full of this useless information.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Old Rhinbeck…

I’ve been close to the place but never got there yet.
Love these pictures, especially the Curtis Golden Flyer.
I couldn’t care less about giving stars to threads. I like these pictures and they contrast well with the OW stuff posted elsewhere.
Got any more???
Andy. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Hi Dave
The book you need to get your hands on is called ‘The Air Defence of Britain 1914-1918’ by Christopher Cole and E.F. Cheeseman published by Putnam 1984.
It’s probably getting a bit hard to get these days so it might be worth trying to get it through a library but it will give you all the information you need.
It gives a daily diary of every raid (including Zeps) that was carried out on the UK during The Great War.
It also gives in great detail all the measures taken by the defenders.
I can guarantee that there’s more information here than you’ll ever need.
I suspect the raid on Sheffield was the on the night of 25/26th September 1916 when L22 made an attack on that city.
(I’d like a picture of the plaque too please).
The first attack by a heavier than air machine on London was carried out by Lt Walther Ilges and Deck Offizier Paul Brandt on 28th November 1916 flying in a LVG C.IV.
This was a daylight raid and was carried out with commendable bravery.
Later in 1917 the daylight raids carried out by Gotha G-series aircraft caused consternation in London and the committee that was set up to investigate the almost complete inability of either the RFC or the RNAS to intercept these raids concluded that a separate air-force was needed. The rest they say is history with the RFC and RNAS being amalgamated to form the RAF on April 1st 1918.
Hope some of this helps
Andy

Pr*ts

Hi LN
I didn’t think we were welcome anywhere else.
We were described as a bunch of Pr*ts elsewhere this weekend.
Any Thoughts??
Andy

Start ’em Young!

Hi Tim
great pictures.
He really looks like he’s enjoying himself.
Well done to Grandad.
Andy

Vulcan

Dan
what the heck were they confusing for a Vulcan????
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