No, they keep holding them if you do that…..

No, it’s just some Italian bird I gave a handful of nuts to.

In some parts of Italy, I understand that’s a common form of greeting….

But they’re such lovely creatures 😉

St James’s Park #30 by shuttleworthpix, on Flickr

Who’s the bit of flange..?
Someone you know Rob..??

Then you do realise that much original RAFM material was used to replicate both the Albatros and the RE8.
The original CAD work for the Albatros was done with the help of the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. The original RE8 and Albatros parts were safely returned to Hendon.
I would say over one half of one of the two containers which arrived at OW was full of stuff going back to Hendon. I know because I helped unpack them.

If the individual who was going to do the Farman was the same as the FE2B then I wouldn’t have lived myself long enough to ever see it.

My view remains, that these machines haven’t been destroyed, they are just moving to another continent for a while.
If you trace the history of the Hanriot, it’ll soon have lived on every continent–apart from Antarctica.

Who knows, in fifty years they may be back.

Andy -where are you getting the ‘limited’ restoration facilities in this country idea from?? Can’t help but think that the likes of Skysport -Tony Ditherage and Guy Black to name just three have pretty much written the book for the last thirty years on WW1 builds and restorations. I think there is a perception that in some way restoration work has to be exported abroad for it to be in any way viable !

David.
Look how long the Dolphin took–or even the FE2B–which Mr Black had to finish.
I’m fifty, I reckon I’d be nearly seventy before the Farman appeared–nearer 80 waiting for the LVG C.VI. Meanwhile TVAL and the French at The Memorial Flight Association keep churning stuff out.
years ago, I used to visit a tin shed at Salisbury Hall where a misanthropic old individual was fettling bits of kindling which he purported to be a BE2C. I used to dream of seeing a BE finished, even as a static. That same aeroplane today flies in New Zealand.
I know to you they are replicas but they are too close to the originals to call.
You’re far more likely to see the Farman finished in new Zealand than you ever will here.

Andy.

Well david, you talk as if the Farman was complete.
It wasn’t and with the limited restoration facilities this country has to offer, it would be a long time before it could be displayed and while the Hanriot was indeed once owned and flown by RO Shuttleworth, it has no more a connection to the RFC/RAF than an Albatros.

And as I said above, when refering to inter organisation co-operation, to have gotten the RE8 from Duxford to Hendon would have required diplomacy on a scale of sorting out the middle east.

Andy.

I stand very much corrected.
Thanks for that Rob.

Has anyone here ever photographed the Leefe-Robinson memorial in Cuffley–site of the crash of SL11..?

Andy.