Tigersharkwait
whats the difference when
Bush calls Iran evil
and when Adminejad or whatever, calls Zionism evil?
Tigersharkwait
whats the difference when
Bush calls Iran evil
and when Adminejad or whatever, calls Zionism evil?
Tigersharkanyne know if the PLAN considered upgrading the sensors, etc in the Ka-28? I assume that they could fit in smaller, improved Chinese systems.
Tigersharkbetween the two, I would go for the new chinese destroyers..even if they are inferior in its fire control and armament to India’s latest one.. the most important fact is that Chinese ships are being pumped out faster and in general, having more is also a good thing.
TigersharkWhat about these:
3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve because they ascribe unto Allah partners, for which no warrant hath been revealed.
4:76 Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil.
4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,
4:91 Ye will find others who desire that they should have security from you, and security from their own folk. So often as they are returned to hostility they are plunged therein. If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.
This next one is good, it pretty much makes a Sunni-Shi’a civil war illegal:
4:93 Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is hell for ever.
Kill Christians:
5:73 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.
9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).
Allah gave the Jewish people land:
10:93 And We verily did allot unto the Children of Israel a fixed abode, and did provide them with good things; and they differed not until the knowledge came unto them. Lo! thy Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that wherein they used to differ.
Should I continue?
Bible can be anti semitic too..
Thessalonians 2:14-15:
For you, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus which are in Judea; for you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all men.
…I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:9.
Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Revelation 3:9.
…the Jews; who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16.
keep in mind it’s not the Muslims who gave the Jews the hardest times. Why did the Jews flock back to Palestine? Because of the Christian Nazis, and before them, and especially, policies by the Orthodox Russians on Ashkenazi Jews, and policies by Catholic Spaniards on the Sephardic Jews. Had they not resorted to such things, the Jews wouldn’t be such in a hurry to flee back to Palestine, and Palestine (and other Muslims) wouldn’t have much of an issue with the Jews.. they’d simply be fighting each other instead
TigersharkWhat about these:
3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve because they ascribe unto Allah partners, for which no warrant hath been revealed.
4:76 Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil.
4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,
4:91 Ye will find others who desire that they should have security from you, and security from their own folk. So often as they are returned to hostility they are plunged therein. If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.
This next one is good, it pretty much makes a Sunni-Shi’a civil war illegal:
4:93 Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is hell for ever.
Kill Christians:
5:73 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.
9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).
Allah gave the Jewish people land:
10:93 And We verily did allot unto the Children of Israel a fixed abode, and did provide them with good things; and they differed not until the knowledge came unto them. Lo! thy Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that wherein they used to differ.
Should I continue?
Bible can be anti semitic too..
Thessalonians 2:14-15:
For you, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus which are in Judea; for you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all men.
…I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:9.
Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Revelation 3:9.
…the Jews; who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16.
keep in mind it’s not the Muslims who gave the Jews the hardest times. Why did the Jews flock back to Palestine? Because of the Christian Nazis, and before them, and especially, policies by the Orthodox Russians on Ashkenazi Jews, and policies by Catholic Spaniards on the Sephardic Jews. Had they not resorted to such things, the Jews wouldn’t be such in a hurry to flee back to Palestine, and Palestine (and other Muslims) wouldn’t have much of an issue with the Jews.. they’d simply be fighting each other instead
Tigershark1. All states are evil – read Hoppe.
States need to exist because man kind is fundamentally evil, and if you don’t agree with that then you must agree that man kind is fundamentally too stupid to be left to their own vices. laws exist to keep people like Michael Jackson, Ted and Al Bundy away from other people, and laws are created by the state.. at least man kind can somewhat keep in check each other’s stupidity collectively.
Tigersharkit does seem like AESA radars don’t necessarily require a large radome like those with dishes in the past. the MiG-25 has a huge nose, but we wouldn’t say it has a more capable radar than one in somthing smaller like the Sea Harrier would we?
TigersharkYup. Make a critical… factual statement and it is anti chinese. Keep trying. Forget it. Everything about the J-10 is totally original.
“facts” can be distorted when some already have a personal bias towards certain countries.
sarcasm aside, can you prove how the J-10 isn’t original? It may use the same engine as an Su-27 but it doesn’t mean its an Su-27. if the Gripen uses the same engine as the LCA does it mean its a copy of each other? :rolleyes:
and what ship in Russia, French, Israel navy looks anyting like 168-171? or what Tank in the Russian arsenal is like the Type 99? some difficult questions for you to answer.
TigersharkIt won’t be anything original. Just knock-off tech.
it’s a shame that there are no shortage of anti-Chinese remarks like this that flood the forum. Some people never move out of that 1960’s mentality.
Japan is known to be a country that knocks off stuff but now they produce some of the best vehicles and electronics in the world. China is basically following the same foot steps. In addition, their latest products aren’t exactly knock offs of anything
what are ships like 170/171, tanks like the Type-99, or J-10 supposed to be knock offs of? :rolleyes:
The Chinese are already making alot of progress on their domestic industry and I wouldn’t be surprised if a stealth bomber could be produced in a decade or two
TigersharkJust ignore Star49, for some reason he has got a gripe against china which is rather bizzare when one considers that his favourite country, pakistan, is virtually completely reliant on china for its continuing survival.
yes not common, but not impossible. Pakistan has alot of internal issues with Islamic extremists and they sometimes present a problem along the Karakorum (a very dangerous highway) and their ideas have the potential to contimanate the minds of Chinese Muslims across the border who have started blowing themselves up since the 90s (but its not as bad as Israel). Perhaps he is one of those disgruntled extremists keen on exporting their ideas.
Tigersharkso u created an earlier pentium 4 processor on old process technology and now claiming that u lead this segment. not knowing that whole 64 bit technology came from russia a decade ago. Russia has to help West the technologies which does not exist let alone follow some thing from asia.
u are confusing decreasing cost factory production with theoretical science and this thing does not work in defence sector.
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/02/16/russian.secret.idg/
Before you accuse other people of ignorance, did you even read the article? It didn’tc ome from Russia, it came from a Russian and this Russian, like many skillfull engineers, are now working abroad. The company he works for now, Intel, is America. People can talk about how much Russia is improving but ever since it’s opened up, scientists and other skilled people can go anywhere they want, especially places that pay them better.
China’s advances in processors is vital towards the development of advance radars like AESAs that require heavy processing.
Tigersharkwhat is the meaning of technology?
go open up your computer. 90% of the time, your CPU, HD, MOBO, etc is from China. how many circuit boards do you see being made in Russia?
Russians excel in many areas, but there are still other areas where China excels.
TigersharkFunny that future backbone of PAF relies on engines from Russia which is the best partner of their biggest enemies. What point is here for Pakistan to rely on those? In case of potential conflict the first thing Indians would do is to call Russkies to halt any support for RD-93s.
The engines will eventually get replaced by Chinese equivelents not too different than what the WS-10A is to the AL-31.
TigersharkWhy does Pakistan need so many AWACS?
they have a defficiency of aircraft with long range radars like Bars. They need anything they can get, simple.
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