Now if someone started a rumour that the bunker was stacked out with crates of ‘Bundy’, sure it would get opened up in record time!
..difficult to find the stuff in the UK, I drink it neat..just a drop of ice perhaps.
Cheers..Chumpy.
..Hmmm Bundaberg bunker, buried aircraft perhaps we will never know.
One thing for sure Bundaberg Rum certainly does exsist, mighty fine stuff!!
…Chumpy (hic)
…..sounds like a nice place!
The Elephant goes by the name of Sir Roger..strange but true!
I was involved in the process of getting LA198 strung up in the roof of the Kelvingrove a couple of years back. The place was a building site with much refurbishment work going on, quite a task to get the Spit from the Transport Museum across the road, through the narrow entrance of the Kelvingrove.
Whilst this was all going on Sir Roger lived in a large wooden box to protect him from the ongoing work. He has lived there since the early 1900s, just too large to be moved out during the work.
Must admit I was also taken aback by the concept of it all…but what the hell.
No I have not been drinking…check out the Kelvingrove website for details on the effylump.
Chumpy.
[QUOTE=avion ancien;1224377]Well I’ll be b******d. It’s a bit like London buses – none for ages and then three come along together!
…Yes bloody annoying things buses!!
TC-Sev
Here she is all new and loverly at Hurn July 1958.
Also have a number of press clippings relating to the Gatwick crash, can do some scans if required.
Cheers, Chumpy.
I thought the water bomber version was called Firemaster, but it was a long time ago.
Your time and trouble, comments and observations much appreciated.
Be lucky
David[/QUOTE]
Hi there,
I do not think the ‘Firemaster’ was ever adopted as an offcial title. Looking at an old 1984 NDN press release for the scoop system, the aircraft is still referred to as the Fieldmaster.
Seem to recall at the time hearing a story that the scoop was yanked off during early ‘scooping’ trials…..Someone not quite getting the stress calcs correct or so the story goes!
Attached is a G/A of the firebomber installation.
Cheers, Chumpy.
Definitely a Botha.
Just look at those worried eyes!
Thanks for the info, is the flare pistol standard fit…or a bit of pilot bravado!?
Chumpy.
without wishing to be rude, you seem to have a funny view of the current aircraft industry.
to listen to you it would be easy to believe that there’s no one out there that can rivet, wheel a skin or do much in the way of structures. .
Hi Bloodnok,
I hear what you say, yes I fully agree with you that there are still pockets of skill and excellence within the UK. These as mentioned by yourself and others mainly within the airline maintenance / G.A, sector, these days…long may this continue.
My comments really relate to the former UK aircraft manufacturing industry, I think there can be no doubt about the current status of this, (badly in need of restoration)
My rather pessimistic view comes from what I see around me, Fournier Boys ‘case book’ sums things up pretty well in my opinion.
So in an attempt to be more positive, for those still keen to get involved in old aircraft go west young man…many more opportunities in the USA.
Chumpy.
Hmmm…the awful truth is certainly coming out tonight, answer is the BOTTOM LINE.
Myself and Mackerel are products of the old time Brit aircraft industry, this supply of product was chopped off at the knees back in the 1980s and has not been replaced.
The ‘warbird’ industry in the UK relies heavily on these past skills as paid for by said company’s along with traditional RAF metal bashing training. What remains of the UK mainstream aircraft industry is now composite based, thus no need for metal bashing, riveting skills etc, or training in such matters.
As previously mentioned the restoration company’s are small concerns, with a bottom line that allow scant financial resources to train the next generation.
Chumpy.
Not sure about the mag…here is the 2 seater!
I think the future will be grey and wrinkly…using godamn yanky MS / NAS hardware, on composite structures. Pass me my 2BA spanner!
Chumpy.
Worthy stuff indeed and again I do not want to be negative, but such a card would be pretty worthless to anyone looking to take on a skilled engineer, if this was your only qualification.
A good starting point but that would indicate a positive attitude, alas most of the companies involved in restoration call it what you will, have scant resources to carry out training so that a young ‘un can build his skills base. A very sad state of affairs that does not bode well for the long term future of the industry.
Another factor mentioned by LL regarding old time Brit AGS, B.A. bolts / SP rivets etc, in particular the dwindling supply of such stuff. Ultimatley it will all be gone, unless some rich guy wants to finance the remanufacture of such stuff…loads of money!
Chumpy.
Alas the short answer to LL’s question is NO.
Also I would say forget the word ‘restoration’, what we are taking about is aircraft engineering in it’s various disciplines, i.e. sheet metal, fitting, engines, avionics etc etc.
I do not want to sound negative here, but the British aircraft industry is dead and gone when it comes to old time metal bashing etc. I was lucky enough to do my apprenticeship back in the 1970s when the ‘industry’ still offered such opportunities. As mentioned by Mackerel a basic 4-5 year process, I know of no such thing in the year 2008.
I can but suggest that you first decide on what particular aspect of aircraft engineering is for you, sheet metal, fitting, engines, (Jack of all trades etc), and try and find an opening some place. As previously mentioned the money is no good, does not impress the girls!
Finally I can but offer up the case of a certain John Romain….started as a volunteer at Duxford…just look at him now. Hold on tight to your dreams as the song goes!
Chumpy.
Further South on the coast is thesite where the V3 was to be lauched. Spitfire N3200 was also reported to be in store at the museum there although I never got to dsee evidence of that.
The V3 was never completed fortunately as it was a gun not dissimilar to the Iraqi supergun. Its target was to be London.
The V3 site at Mimoyecques…very atmospheric / spooky place, the upper galleries and tunnels remain intact. However below are many collapsed levels, still with many hundreds entombed when the site was bombed in 1944.
The attached shots taken during the recovery of Spit N3200 a few years back. Wet, dark and muddy in the gallery where the Spit was stored, luckily the tunnels are large so we could drive the van in and get loaded.. was glad to get out!
Despite all this worth a visit if you are passing by.
Chumpy.