Well, maybe they just want to save young boys from getting their heart broken because of these silly sms’s messages. 😀

Correct Hand, as I said. However, I can’t resist commenting on some of his ideas.

It is like the USSR; it all comes down to war, and if you’re not successful in breaking the 300 years old grip of the Anglo-Saxon race on the world or not go to war at all, it all makes no sense. History repeats itself and the big cycles are not broken!

Well, you ARE racist. Anglo-Saxon is NOT a race, it’s a cultural thing. The last time they tried to connect race and nationality we all know what happened.
History doesn’t “repeat” itself, that’s just bul****. There are cycles, in the field of economy (conjuctural) and sociology (kondratiev), but why would history have to repeat itself. And that doesn’t explain why there would have to be a war between Europe and the US. Such a war would be devastating for both.

— Because they promote the division between the Anglo-Saxon world and the European peoples, hurting both in the way, hurting white men and white civilisation.

This is pure racism. In fact, even Vlaams-Blok propaganda would not mention the words you just mentioned. Do you actually realise that in my country you could risk getting jailed for this?

Thirdly, your Anglo-Saxon World order. What’s it like? With all do respect for the British, but really, there’s only ONE superpower in the world, and that is the United States. They decide who are usefull allies, through NATO and other partnerships. Constitutionally the US is an Anglo-Saxon country, but looking at its people, a melting pot of cultures, how can you talk about “race” in this context. Being “German” yourself, you should know that many Americans today are from German origin, just as French, Dutch, ‘Belgians’ …

There is no tradition of personal freedom in France. And not in most of the rest of Europe either. That has a lot to do with Protestant vs Catholic views of society. (And the U.S. goes full steam ahead to lose it, and I don’t mean Bush, it started centuries ago).

Once again, I will try to sound not too arrogant, but man, where have you got this information from? Never heard about the three words “egalité, liberté, fraternité”. French ‘philosophes’ like Montesqiueu and Voltaire CREATED the concept of individual freedom, whereas the British (Scots) like Hobbes have formed the Leviathan, based on a society where people give some of their power to a despot/king. The Protestants vs Catholic view is the Max weber-argument, but has nothing to do with individual freedom, but with capitalism. Ever read the book “Sophies World”? Look if you want to use philosophical arguments that’s quite dangerous, because you can’t simply compare them and call one better. Aufklarung has a different meaning in France, in the UK, in Germany and the rest of Europe. But France today is not the same anti-religious “rational prison” (Taine) it was 200 years ago.

Because they are setting the EU on a path leading to a new kind of feudalism.

A new kind of feudalism, great. Doesn’t that mean that there will be a weak central gov’t or no gov’t at all. Isn’t that the contrary of “evil powerful Brussels”?

Thirdly, your scenario is complete utter utter BS! I can forgive you your thoughts on the future, because this might actually happen (when pigs fly). However, your historical arguments are not even worth commenting on it, because books are written about it.

We don’t want Britain in Europe. Personally I’d prefer if they drop out, and let the rest move on. If Britain is in the EU that’s because it wants to be in it, the EU has no legal measures to keep it in the union though. Blair should just say “Sorry guys we gotta go, change of course”. If the people of the UK are in the EU against their will, that’s the fault of their own politicians, not of France or the rest of Europe. You just can’t move your problems across the chanel, that’s a bit too easy. However, the current “rage” against the EU has more to do with internal problems in the UK. It’s ofcourse so much easier to blame France/Belgium/Netherlands rather than handling your own problems with for instance asylum seakers. I’m tired of having to hear the sh!t about everyone being responsible except the UK itself. In fact, I hope they drop out!! Really, the UK is not “paradise” for the average continental European. It’s not like the living standards are so much higher and we want to move there or even worse, use your money. Been to the UK, have to say, fine people, but have seen poverty as much as in the rest of Europe. So there’s no simple reason why Britain would be any different from the rest of the continent. If there’s one country which has paid more so far than getting any, it must be Germany. Look, I am Eurosceptic myself, as I don’t like to current situation in Brussels which is about 180% degrees of what I think the EU should be. However, this is not about scepticism anymore, this is pure xenophobic non-sence, for the sake of argument. Bashing the EU is just “fashion” these days. It’s a problem not only in the UK but in the whole old world: cynism. At least there’s one thing I really admire from the Americans: they believe in something, they are not the same cynist weenies we are turning into. Bash the EU, bash the mailman for delivering the post too late … goddamned, we act like spoiled little children, in our playgrond called ‘Abendland’. Can’t we be happy for once, and admit that life’s good these days. 😡 We even have a political party to satisfy the “unsatisfied”: Vlaams Blok. It’s not their right wing propositions that bother me, it’s their annoying way of blaming everything on others, be it immigrants, French speaking, politicians or even your next door neigbour. Strange enough however, the same people who are “unsatisfied” are the ones living from welfare, social aid … bashing the jews is a bit undone these days so lets all blame Brussels and move on to a happy, healty community.

Look, since the Prussio-French war of 1870 the climate in Europe has changed into nationalism. Not only in Germany, also in France (Action française), Belgium etc. It would be wrong to blame one nation for invading and the other for collaborating. In fact, when WWI started, no one could have imagined it was Germany who triggered the war (in fact it was Austria but OK). Even Belgium had plans of invading the Netherlands (Gentlemen, I sh!t you not). And after WWI there was an even worse situation (nationalism + fascism –> national socialism) which eventually led to WWII. History in a nutshel.
You can’t just compare these situations to the present situation and call the French collaborationists. The UK would have done the same under given circumenstances.
My grandad was no “war-hero”. He fled to France in order to save his wife and family. Some weeks later France was also captured and he had to return to work in a German factory. So excuse me, but most people have relatives who fought in the world wars or at least, suffered heavily from it. Well, if that is a motive to become xenophobic towards other countries 😡

i got abad one today , 3 duvels , 3 kasteelbier , 2 leffe , 4 casual beers , and god everything hurts , i will never drink again ( i say this for god knows how many times before :p )

😮 3 Duvels and 3 kasteelbiers is enough to get an elephant drunk. However, I had some regular beers the other night and have a hangover (I always prefer the ‘pintje’, at least you don’t have the “suprise” hangover like from Delirium tremens or cheap wine). My head hurts, but I don’t feel sick.