The downed aircraft is a MiG-23; according to Turkish Armed Forces statment;
-At 13:01 BIKIM (roughly translates as, integrated control&warning center) starts tracking two MiG-23s 80nmi away from Turkish borders.
-Until the aircraft has reached within 10nmi of Turkish border, they were warned 4 times. One of the MiG-23s broke off and turned away, while other maintained course and crossed border by 1 km at 13:13, then headed west and flied within Turkish airspace by 1.5 km.
-At 13:14 F-16s from 181st Pars Squadron engaged and shot down the MiG-23 with a single missile, which was headed for west.
-MiG-23 crashed 1200 meters south of Turkish border, pilot ejected.In the interview with Syrian pilot admitted crossing the Turkish border while trying to track terrorists.
Can you provide sources in English?
Has anyone seen or heard any reports regarding PSR coverage in the region and if it has been of any value to the search? I’m thinking along the lines of military EW stations and such.
Why can’t radar determine where the aircraft went?
When the Pan Am Lockerbie 747 went down the debris field was tracked on radar.
I don’t know anything about the radar coverage in these areas, but ATS today usually rely on secondary surveillance radar utilizing active transponders aboard aircraft. A primary surveillance radar would be needed to transmit and receive actual radar waves which may reflect off objects such as aircraft regardless of transponder units.
Sweet, looks like maneuvers.
According to this article, RNoAF F-104 pilots spotted a lot of Soviet Badgers somewhere north of Andรธya on that day.
I remember about ten or so years ago, when I was driving long distance home from school, there was a major military airlift exercise going on and the sky would be full of contrails. I am hundreds of miles from the nearest airbase.
I bet events like that can upset the “chemtrail” crowd a little bit. ๐
The thread would never be complete without this one, IMO. Wonder if this particular copy has been cut / reduced, but I haven’t found a better one.

Nice one from Wikipedia.
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A U.S. Air Force McDonnell Douglas F-4D Phantom II aircraft of the New Jersey Air National Guard flying in close formation with a Royal Norwegian Air Force Northrop F-5A “Freedom Fighter” aircraft during exercise Coronet Rawhide on 1 September 1982.
Finish your degree too because tertiary education is an advantage when going for an airline interview.
This. Or I’d suggest you consider another education / degree if possible before commencing commercial flying training, especially if you can’t stand the one you’re currently working on. The airline industry can be relatively difficult, and many professional pilots seem to agree that getting a tertiary education is generally a smart thing to do for prospective airline pilots today. It’s nice to have something to fall back on if things don’t work out. Many pilots with airline jobs as well seem to be interested in MBA courses and such. I’m currently studying for a Master’s degree while working part-time as a flight instructor. Right now I don’t trust the industry enough to invest everything in it.
Do you really want to work for low-cost carriers such as Ryanair, if that should prove to be your only option in the short-term after getting your CPL?
Also, if flying in general is your thing – try gliders!
If I’ve learned anything from this thread it must be that I prefer nose art featuring hot women or something humouros instead of the more “cheesy” stuff with big flags and such. Some of those animal motives look good, though. Point of view, matter of taste and all that.
Don’t know anything about this app, but.. Underestimating women in general a bit today, are we? :highly_amused:
Unless you suffer women who would actually rely on such an app in all seriousness, in which case I’d reconsider a thing or two.
Don’t know anything about this app, but.. Underestimating women in general a bit today, are we? :highly_amused:
Unless you suffer women who would actually rely on such an app in all seriousness, in which case I’d reconsider a thing or two.
Not sure if this one has been posted before in this thread, but speaking of nice angles:

As it happens, I used to be a competition diver but, I don’t like boasting.
Haven’t competed much in front of large audiences, but I often get good cheers anyway.
As it happens, I used to be a competition diver but, I don’t like boasting.
Haven’t competed much in front of large audiences, but I often get good cheers anyway.
I will gladly land downwind :rolleyes:
Just to make an a** of yourself as you overrun in front of the ladies? :p
I am in the frozen North and it makes me shiver to think that aircrews and pilots had to scramble in weather like this well below zero F.
Dense air can be nice for performance. Got to look at the bright side. ๐
I quite like diving. I used to do an awful lot when I was living in Northern Ireland at a place called Muff.
Guess you won the Internet today. :highly_amused: