It still is as far as I know. Debate away by all means.
Only thing is I’m not debating anything, I’m giving my view. Doubt there’s anything that can be said here that would change it with regard to that ill-conceived structure.
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I visit Cosford on probablymore often than most on this forum & I have not heard many complaints about the shape
Well you’re hearing them here.
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Surely the question of reaching or exceeding the speed of light is itself misleading. The point of doing so would be to get somewhere a vast distance away. Doesn’t this mean that distance is the problem not speed. Solve the problem of distance and speed becomes irrelevent.
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badger
The point I was trying to make was who cares about the shape of the building the most important thing is to get the aircraft undercover.
A whole lot of people care. The shape of the building at Cosford is totally wrong for displaying historic aircaft in their supposed environment. The shape may, and probably does, give orgasms to arty types, ‘learned’ architectural organisations, esoteric design magazines and building judging panels but does nothing to promote aircraft. And these are aircraft that have had a great amount of work done on their structures and paint schemes, aircraft that have been brought back to a state that is supposedly representative of the way they appeared when in use. Why not the building they are displayed in as well?
A traditional hangar says more about it’s function than can ever be inferred from the collapser that is now blighting Cosford’s airfield. Also, as with the aircraft there, a traditional type hangar would be instrumental in evoking the ‘nostalgia’ element from the visitors. Dad, or grandad, can walk around aircraft exhibits waxing lyrical about ‘the good old days’ to youngsters and how they used to work on/fly this or that. Wouldn’t it be a much more powerful experience if the building these memory-jogging airframes were in was also part of the ‘history’.
Further, no explantion is necessary as you approach a traditional type aircraft hangar, you know what you’re about to experience, the building itself declaims it. But the twisted tin-can lying on the ground at Cosford, well . . . Any building that needs some academic to explain what it repesents is not worth the effort that has gone into it. And I bet that the strange shape will have to be explained over and over and over again when it finally opens to the public. Wouldn’t need to do that if it were, like the aircraft, historic.
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Ah yes, I pondered whether to put Geilenkirchen on or not, but I ended up doing places that were active (RAF) when I lived out there. At that time only the MQs at GKirchen were in Brit hands
Ah, I see. You were there when it was all running down then, in the days when the whole Cold War thing was all but over. Seems you missed all the ‘tension & action’ or you would have included Geilers. Never mind, maybe you can get to play in the next one. :rolleyes:
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sjwmoore
You got Wildenrath, Bruggen, Laarbruch, Gutersloh (Clutch Base?), even JHQ, but you missed Geilenkirchen. Didn’t you know about this one?
Geilenkirchen hosted 3 Sqn – B(I)8 Canberras; 11 Sqn – FAW9 Javelins; 5 Sqn – FAW9 Javelins. :diablo:
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Dennis
No, 3 Sqn’s Harriers will be handed over to 800 Sqn at Cotty while 3 Sqn re-forms the next day at Connigsby with Typhies.
aj and Moggy are right, that’s Quartermaster’s Stores.
But . . . there were dozens if not hundreds of different versions of that ditty. The base idea and chorus was the same in all cases, and some of the basic verses, but pretty much every station and most sqns had their own version with local events, peoples and places given verses all of their own. I mean, the version we sang < :rolleyes: > on Gan didn’t refer to WRAF’s but to Q’s. In fact, wouldn’t be surprised if you couldn’t identify a bloke’s time and postings in the RAF by the particular words he knows to many of these ribald old dittys. 😉
Nice pix Dave, looks like you had a good day’s visit with the Canberra Assoc.
Regarding 39’s missions, I think 5 Sqn are taking over some of the tasks – if they can ever find a way to their Sentinal R1 Astor off the ground with a full crew and the huge amount of electronic kit it’s supposed to carry. :rolleyes:
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Ref the B.15 WH984. The cockpit of this Canberra is now at the City of Norwich Aviation Museum, Horsham owned by a Mr John Sheldrake. Potted history and pics here.
Glyn, the pic you show of it as a complete airframe is much better than the one I have of it on the line at Akrotiri. Any chance of using it on my site?
Brittania
Great! Many thanks for that gen. 😀
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The blokes thank you for your encouragement.
The A Team. :rolleyes:
Sorry mate, canopies surface occasionally and get snapped up. Do think there’s more of the T.4 type around though. If I hear anything I’ll let you know.
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You’ll both be looking for different canopies then. T.4s have two DV ports, the ‘standard’ canopy only has one on the port side.
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