Talk about being shot down here, LesB I know an awful lot of people from the Shack fraternity and all of them know the nicknames I put up, and haven’t heard of shacklepin. Because you havent heard of them dosen’t mean they wern’t used as nicknames, in the same way I wouldn’t doubt ‘shacklepin’ Don’t know many Jav crews, but ones I do, concur with what I posted.
Mmm . . . Any bloke who was on Shacks or even had dealings with them and didn’t know the term Shacklepin must have been in a different Air Force :rolleyes: . But, to be fair, I’ve heard the term “Old Grey Lady” but that wasn’t what was used in everyday parlance when talking about them. People would say “There’s a Shacklepin due in at 13:00.” Not, “There’s an “Old Grey Lady” due in . . .” (unless there was to be a visit by the Queen Mum).
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. . . 4 RAFG Canberra B(I)8 also on QRA. Ch.XX, pp.334/5 and Ch.XXX,P.550: from 1/1/62 1 aircraft per Sqdn,. . .
Eight aircraft Ken, 6 B(I)8s and two B(I)6s on the four Strike Sqn clutch stations. Two each B(I)8s from 3 Sqn (Geilenkirchen), 14 Sqn (Wildenrath)and 16 Sqn (Laarbruch) and two B(I)6s from 213 Sqn (Bruggen) all loaded with one Proj E each. Each of the Strike Sqns fielded two aircraft on QRA at all times.
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The Belfast of course became known as the Belslow
Yes, but not used as a nickname more a ‘banter’ descriptor in conversation.
Hi Les, any idea why 231 called their a/c Marrows ??
Shape of fuselage and the dire need to be different (strange peeps on 231 :rolleyes: ). They fielded a 4-ship formation team of Canberra T.4s called “Green Marrows”. Quite good really considering the frames were bomber trainers, used to do upward starbursts etc.
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Gloster Javelin, the ‘Harmonious drag master’ due to its distinctive Sapphire and inlet tone, and built in drag! Also known as the ‘Flying Trowel’
Never heard a Jav called any of those, was known to lineys as the “Flatiron” (which someone has mentioned previously). Curiously, the Javelin was strange in that it actually went slower when re-heat was engaged. :rolleyes:
Avro Shackleton ‘10,000 rivets in close formation’, ‘flying Cow’ and ‘Old Grey Lady’
Nope, pretty universally termed the Shacklepin. “100 rivets” and Flying Oil Slick” were descriptions, not nicks.
A Hastings was a “Haystack”.
A Jet Provost was a “JayPee”.
A Canberra was a “Cranberrie” – (or a “Marrow” on 231 OCU only).
A Britannia was (on Gan only) a “Sticky Brit” (anyone who works that one out must have been a Gannite!)
A VC-10 was a “VickyTen” or, lately a “Vickers Funbus”.
A Belfast was a “Belf”
An F-4 was a “Phant” or a “Toom”
An Anson was an “Annie”
and many more that escape me at the moment. 😉
All these were names regularly used by ground crew to ID aircraft movements in my RAF days, not some descriptive funny phrase.
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Whay not have a word with the Britt blokes at Kemble? Their machine has been sitting outside on the airfield for yonks.
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I did a few “showing arounds” at MAM last summer, especially their Canberr (WF922). One thing I said to every one entering the Canberra for a look was that this was a miltary aircraft and therefore they should take extreme care in where thyeir head was at any given moment. Always to look carefully into the space you were entering to check for sharp corners and overhead projections. This advise particulary to youngsters (and parents of same). Don’t want youngsters coming out of a displayed mil airframe with blood streming down their forehead – not a good image.
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Right, I see what happened. Flap shroud bent and damaged and aileron at the outer edge. Conjecture about the why . . . bit of flap droop meant play in the security of the aileron lock. Small at first but once started would build up in oscillations. Actually surprised to see the lock still in place really but you can see where it’s been pulled away from the flap shroud. Unsure as to why the damage at the outer end. Looks a bit like some sort of contact damage though. Anything there that could cause this?
In all my years in the RAF I recall only once having to turn aircraft into the wind and that was on RAF Gan just before the October monsoon wind. Aircaft were two Canberras, one Herc and a Brittania. All other times when high winds were forecast, the scheme was to securely picket the aircraft. This was via picket points set into the pans or dispersals but more usually 3ft dia concrete blocks or 45 gall drums filled with concrete.
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. . . strong winds overnight, Canberra WJ639 suffered some wing damage…mainly to the left wing in that the aileron was slightly ripped, the far end of the wing which is connected to the drop tank was slightly damaged too, on inspection today, we disscussed the choices of reparing or replacing the panel, its looking more along the lines of a new panel.
Be interested to know how a Canberra aileron can be ‘ripped’, even slightly. :confused: Also, be interesting to know in what way the wing tip was damaged. Any pictures?
The Canvas on the same side of the tale was also ripped, its going to be a big repair job 🙁
Can’t recall there being any ‘canvas’ on the side of the tale (sic) – I guess you mean ‘fin’. Canberra fins are covered with marine ply. :confused:
If you’re worried about a Canberra sitting back on its tail – this can happen very easily, especially in snow and high winds – best bet would be to have a padded trestle under the rear fuse at the trestling point. I do hope you have a trestle or some sort of stay there. You do, don’t you!
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hers one of a swedish C130 flying a bit low. Aparrently the Pilot was grounded after this stunt.
I don’t know if this was a ‘stunt’ or not, but most Herc pilots train for this sort of low flying at some time.
The flight profile shown is that used to deliver supplies when no airfied or suitable landing strip is available – more usually though when delivering supplies to troops in hostile areas. The supplies are pallated and drawn out the back of the Herc by parachute to skid along the ground. The method has been well used (and filmed) during food drops in various African hot spots as well as a few years ago in Kosovo.
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Spotted these bits for sale on fleabay, thought they might be of interest to the cranberry fans.
Looks to me like PR.9 kit, the canopy is, not sure about the equip, could be either. Could it be kit ‘liberated’ when 39 Sqn closed down two years ago?
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Don’t forget, they could add colour, too!!
Not on old chap, everybody knows that WWII was in Black & White.
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Late to this thread but Billion Dollar Brain is correct answer. Have a photo somewhere . . . 😉
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Jag
Check your PM’s.
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Yes it was Dave, need glasses here. It’s on my list as such. Other post deleted.
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