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  • in reply to: RAF Canberra Lost in Brazil? #1277767
    LesB
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    A Chilean PR.9 (one of three they were given – ex-XH167) crashed on 25 May 1983 near Punts Arenas.

    No RAF Canberras were lost during the Falklands thing.

    During the Indo/Pakistan war the Indian Air Force used English Electric Canberras while the Paks used Martin B-57 Canberras.

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    in reply to: Newsnight 15/11/2007 – RAF Nuclear Weapon Arming #1278697
    LesB
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    It was a load of typical BBC garbage trying to be sensationalist approx 43 years after the events. (Maybe the beeb’s pinkos are feeling guilty about all the good and sympathetic coverage the military have been getting recently!)

    And as for that CND woman – what a self-righteous prig. None of the issues involved addressed directly except to whine that “. . . it could happen.” No it bluddy couldn’t, not in the RAF I was in!

    Again, in an RAF nuke report, no mention of the nuke carrying Canberras of RAF Germany. Is it only those of us that were on them know about them? Does nobody else know about them?

    As for the ‘bicycle key’. It was the woman interviewer of the so-called expert that said it looked like a bicycle key. The key looks like this . . .

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    in reply to: V-FORCE Questions #1324306
    LesB
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    Yes Spyflight is pretty good
    As far as it goes that is……;) exmpa

    I’ll second that.

    The bloke that runs Spyflight is a nice fellow, (we’ve e-mailed), but some of the ‘facts’ he has there are just not on. Not his fault I guess but it shows what taking other blokes printed ‘stories’ can do. Especially that bloke Lashmar! Trouble is Lashmar’s not wrong, he’s just not right! But then, who really cares? Not me. :rolleyes:

    in reply to: RAFM Hendon walkaround 10th October 2007 #1325558
    LesB
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    Nice set there Rob, good one.

    Thanks for the port side lo-angle on the Canberra, just right squire. But they don’t make it easy to photograph do they. Looks like you’ll have to edit the img link in Post #6 so that everybody can see it.

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    in reply to: RAFM Hendon – any photo requests? #1329219
    LesB
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    Rob
    Would appreciate a couple of tasty low-angle pics of their Canberra PR.3, say three-quarter front from stbd side and three-quarter rear port side. (The rear view may pose probs though as it might be roped off.)

    Nobody ever seems to take photos of that Canberra. It is the New Zealand Air Race winner and one of only two PR.3’s left extant. The other is at MAM. 😀

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    in reply to: Sywell airshow returns for 2008 #1329223
    LesB
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    – let us have your thoughts on what you’d like to see and what we can do to exceed your expectations!!!

    TT, thanks for asking about this.

    As I mentioned here after last year’s wonderful show (apart from the boggy, rain soaked grass), could the Sywell team make some effort to get the cars of blokes with motobility problems (or disabled badges – blue cards) nearer to or on some hardstanding? Not looking for anything more than an understanding about the problems inherent in trying to trundle an leccy scooter (or wheelchair) across wet grass, drained my batts last year, embarrassing, had to be pushed back to the carpark – not a pretty sight mate. Saw a couple of other blokes in much the same situation. Maybe some thoughtfully place PSP?

    Of course it may not rain in the morning next year, but this is the UK – so it probably will! :rolleyes:

    As for what I’d like to see . . . a Canberra B(I)8 is out of the question I suppose! 😉 Seriously, last year Sywell gave a top show so same line-up would work for me.

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    in reply to: Of legends rumours and urban myths #1248963
    LesB
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    This sounds like a hyped-up version of the actual accident with the Basset that was refuelled with avtur at Valley in the very early 70’s.

    That’s a true story. The Basset was from 26 Sqn, Wyton, crewed by the Sqn CO and a senior nav. It was at Valley to pick up the station CO and deliver him to Northolt. Valley line screwed up and put the wrong fuel in the Basset which, consequently, didn’t have enough power to clear the low stone wall at the end of the runway. Hit the wall and tipped over in worst possible way killing 26 Sqn Boss and Valley’s CO, nav suffered a broken back. I know this as I was on 26 Sqn at the time (last posting before demob).

    The Valley blokes were not flavour of the month as our CO was a top bloke, as was the nav. Must explain that none of the blokes on 26 at that time had less than 12 years service – well ‘knees brown’ the lot of us, ground and air crew. 26 Sqn (a Comms sqn) was Devons and Bassets and was looked on as a stressless little flying club to place blokes on their last posting before getting out. Ex-RAF blokes on the forum will know what I mean.

    We flew up to Valley in an Andover to pick up our men and whatever we could recover from the wreck. Andover pilot was asked to radio Valley that we didn’t want any Valley types anywhere near our Andover and to park us on the far end of the pan. We did our own turnround, refuel, etc. Our acting Boss (another old Wing Co) contacted the acting Station CO and had a Landrover and J2 van sent out to our kite. We had brought our own MT drivers (and two RAF Police) who took some of us to the wreck site where we recovered any worthwhile equipment (Decca Nav, etc). Meanwhile Valley Sick Quarters handed over our two blokes in coffins which were loaded into the Andover after we’d stashed the pitifully small pile of recovered kit. We formed two ‘honour’ lines at the Andover’s rear ramp, saluting as the coffins were carried aboard. Buttoned up the kite and took off back to Wyton. Funeral was a very sad event for the sqn, I was one of the six pall-bearers.

    In all my time ‘in’ I never experienced such a sense of togetherness on a squadron. Sad, sad day. 🙁

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    in reply to: V-FORCE Questions #1253029
    LesB
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    exmpa‘s reply gives a good (and nicely personal) account of the V force state of affairs in the 60s and makes interesting reading. And you have to believe that it would have worked – but only once.

    Of course, the V force wasn’t the only nuke equipped RAF asset on the SACEUR inventory. By the time the V’s went in, the four, Germany based, Canberra Strike Sqns would have delivered their tactical instant sunshine to key points around the battle zone (most of Eastern Europe in fact). Certain of our QRA Canberras had targets that were intended to create the ‘entry points’ (mentioned by exmpa) for the UK based V’s – the so-called ‘gateways’. The idea was, I found out years later, that known and expected military concentrations, eg, missile batteries, radar sites, etc were to be nullifed – not countered, but nullified and quickly, within the first two hours of activities. This was to be carried out by the Canberras and their tac nukes clearing as wide a corridor as possible to facilitate V penetration.

    The whole strategy, at least as we understood it on the Strike Sqns, was termed the Nuclear Tripwire. Looking back on it now it must have been obvious that the enemy at that time had massive superiority in numbers (not quality) so an attrition strategy was not feasible. If the Rifle Regiments had rolled onto the eastern plains of Germany an immediate, positve and hard nuclear response was the answer. Escalation was built-in from the ‘off’ so to speak. Although the Canberras were also tasked with secondary targets these were only expected to be addressed if the primary couldn’t be nullified. You didn’t do the primary and then go on to your secondary. In fact, most of the Canberra crews knew they wouldn’t get far away from their primaries, but all of them expected to, anything else was unthinkable. The ‘gateway’ blokes would try to recover to Norway, Sweeden, Denmark, the other nuke Canberras – directly targeted on enemy installations to the east – would recover to Switzerland, France, Italy, etc because, the German bases were not expected to be there any more.

    ECM? Not having. Plan was to go in low, hot and fast. Strike Sqn Canberra crews spent all their flying time in Germany practicing low-level transits, getting to know the country from 250 feet. In the event, hot transit would be 150 to 250 ft AGL and around 350 IAS. All flown to pre-selected way-points.

    The above can’t, and must not be considered definitive. As exmpa says, nobody was ever actually told the overall plan, just go there, do this. What I’ve given above is as a result of being there on a Strike Sqn and bits of info gathered in discussion with other blokes over the years since those far off MAD* days.

    Then, in 69 the powers gave the UK nuclear deterrant to the navy. The skies of Germany became devoid of Strike Canberras, the Phantoms, Bucaneers and Harriers arrived – and it all changed.

    As exmpa alludes in his posts, it wasn’t a pleasant time and not really ‘visible’ to the general public so those days don’t get the plaudits they deserve. But it’s what we were there for.

    *Apt word, but stands for Mutually Assured Destruction in this context.

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    in reply to: Phantom Drawing…… #1256250
    LesB
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    That’s talent you have there Rob, shoot for the skies.

    Was and still am impressed with the 3 Sqn B(I)8s you did for me, even allowing for the artful ploy used to get some reference material!!

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    in reply to: Canberra TT18 Paint #1258529
    LesB
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    Have you tried BAe? back in the 1980’s they had the contract to service Cranberries until 2012!! so the may still have some record- long shot I know.

    Majority of the work done on the TT.18s (including conversion I believe) was carried out by Flight Refuelling at Hurn.

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    in reply to: Canberra TT18 Paint #1259088
    LesB
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    I may be wrong (and usually am) but I think the aircraft was disposed of by the RAF straight to NEAM (dismantled and roaded in) not long after the airfield (Sunderland) closed in 1984.

    LL
    Potted history of your TT.18 here

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    LesB
    Participant

    Must admit Martin that I was one of the sceptics at first. But after listening to your quite-voiced passion it became obvious that you and your mates were going to “Make it so.” In that then, a hearty well-done!

    With Martin’s permission here are a few pix of the airframe for the general interest . . .

    In the sun last Saturday . . .
    http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/Viscount/Viscount01.jpg

    Again . . .
    http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/Viscount/Viscount02.jpg

    . . . and again
    http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/Viscount/Viscount03.jpg

    The dart-boards
    http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/Viscount/Viscount04.jpg

    Pax cabin looks good, I’ve flown in worse! :rolleyes:
    http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/Viscount/Viscount05.jpg

    Most of the clocks are there but a fair amount of work still needed.
    http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/Viscount/Viscount06.jpg

    Coming up for 22:00 at MAM
    http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/Viscount/Viscount07.jpg

    With the Viscount on site he still manages to find time to work on MAM’s F-4 camo re-paint.
    http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/Viscount/Phixer1.jpg

    Now, just get it in order to allow the ‘frame to winter well and “yer in like Flynn!”

    Oh, and watch out for Team A at MAM. Turn your back for a minute and it’ll be done out in camo with added tip-tanks!:rolleyes:

    All the luck troops – but it looks as if you make your own luck! 😉

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    in reply to: East Midlands Aeropark today #1261946
    LesB
    Participant

    You should have tried for MAM.

    Lovely day, plenty of people around (museum folk and visitors), all the airframes sparkling in the sun, superb tuna sandwich and coffee, F-4 started getting its first camo coat and several engine bays opened to view.

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    in reply to: North East Aircraft Museum…..updates #1276504
    LesB
    Participant

    I would love to see that preserved, best British post war piston type IMO.

    You’re joking. Right! I know two old Brigand drivers (Far East Air Force gentlemen) who’ve said it would have been safer to deliver their ordnance in Malaya by hand! Not a stable platform at all I’m told.

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    in reply to: Hunter "Wet Start" #1277293
    LesB
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    T.11 Vampires were notorious for wet starts. Early 60s when I was on detachment to the Vamps at RAF Shawbury, the drill was to sit on the end of the tail booms, tipping the airframe up and letting the surplus fuel slosh out of the jet pipe. Didn’t stop the grass being burnt and tailplane scorching on the subsequent start though, but it made it less of a drama than if we’d left the fuel in there I guess. Fun times. :rolleyes:

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