The Seahawk will be a bit sticky with the new regs etc I would think, lots of money to put into an aeroplane that may just end up not being able to support itself with airshow work
The Seahawk is still on the military regisiter is it not? The fact they have moved it to storage at Shwabury suggests it’s not happening any time soon anyway.
My understanding was they were concentrating on getting the Swordfish (all three)and the Sea Fury trainer airworthy, then the FB11 and then the Seahawk.
According to their blog, the FB11 was grounded while they deliberated the cause of the engine failure in the T20
https://www.navywings.org.uk/news-blog/engineering-update-from-the-royal-navyn-historic-flight/
Latest mad rumours on Facebook – VTTS have applied to the CAA for (presumably positioning) ferry permits to fly XH558 to Cranfield or other various places.
Wonder if that’s a registration for a positioning flight – HHA usually fly them on military serials for contracts. That serial number seens odd for an mk58, looks more like an F4 one (But Hawker build serials can be confusing!)
EDIT – a bit of googling revealed it WAS an F4 – one of the ones bought back by Hawker for conversion to later marks for export – ex-XF318.
David Griffin’s book has it sold to HHA and stored at Stavanger.
Duplicates: Consider LA198 and LA255 the Nation’s duplicates
Talking with Steve Subritzky last September he suggested to me that Peter Dye was totally sold on acquiring the Vincent a few years back. “Just got to have it”, he said
It sounds like he was over-ruled by the ‘bean-counters’. 🙂
As to values, from the Nation’s point of view…the sole Vickers Vincent for a Mk 21 Spitfire, sounds to me like a more than equitable trade in the Nation’s favour.
Mark,
I would agree completely, but I also agree with Dave that this properly belongs in New Zealand
Is it no the job of the RAF Museum to preserve one of each type regardless of the personal whims of the management at the time?
Their collecting policy is on their website
11 months on from the last post, has anything happened? Is the silence good or bad?
One thing that concerns me is the assumption that the owners and restorers of these aircraft actually want to sell them to the RAFM. They are in New Zealand because the NZ Air Force flew them so why should they not be displayed in that country ?
Negotiations were at least initiated, LA226 was the proposed swap (As a duplicate – didn’t know the RAFM had another mk 21)
Sky could be any RAF fighter from mid 1940 to 1941, or day bombers and coastal command beyond that
There is a colour photo around of a Stirling which also casts doubt that the official colours were used, in that the grey looks very light and the green appears closer to Dark Green than Dark Slate Grey. However I don’t think that there is any final word on the matter.
Wasn’t that one in India, and the EDSG is very chalked?
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Which makes the RAFM’s stated reason for not pursuing the acquisition further all the more curious
I have heard a rumour (no more than that from people who know people who know people) that someone felt it wasn’t ‘worth’ a potentially flyable Spitfire…
From the outset this was always going to be a meticulous static restoration inside and out.
In consequence Steve Subritzky was able to recover, conserve and use 75% of the original steel space-frame and fittings.
Here the machine gun trough that revealed the RNZAF serial NZ311 stencil.
Mark
Interesting to see the use of grey green as the interior colour
Please elaborate.
Chap called Rodney Gerrad gained notoriety for creating and distributing fake WW1 fabric samples to several well known researchers. Theses were complete fakes, but this only came to light some years after his death (Several said they had ‘suspicions’ before then)
Why he did this, we will never know. You can read some of the background and fallout here:
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45396
He also faked a fairly large number of RFC captured aircraft reports, which still turn up for sale today.
There is a long and sordid history of fake WW1 fabric samples
Classic case of a family business where the next generation don’t have the same interest as the previous and diversify