Dave,
Would like to know the BS number for the Flourescent Red Orange colour ?
It didn’t have one – none of the flourescent colours ( e.g. Signal Green, Saturn Yellow) had BS references.
I quite liked the black scheme, but it’s nice to see them painted in historic colours
I have to say that i personally think that the IWM need to refurbish Spitfire R6915. She really is looking very tired and almost appears to be ready to come apart at the seams. What a travesty for a Battle of Britain veteran that flew 57 sorties in the Battle with 13 different pilots with 5 confirmed kills and 6 damaged . I would definitely restore her to the 609 squadron livery that she wore in 1940, but the IWM already have a Spitfire I in that Squadron markings so there is little hope of that!.
I’d put her in her 602 markings……
Regarding the Zero, it’s a pity she was slathered in RAF Dark Earth, but her original Japanese colours are remarkably strong underneath that.
The changes occured due to the change in composition of the paints used by the RAF. They went to a polyurethane based paint in 1966 – at that time, it was not possible to make an ‘aluminium’ paint in polyurethane, so Light Aircraft Grey was a dopted (based on a colour in BS2660) as being the nearest equivalent shade (in terms of light reflectivity etc) as Aluminium/High Speed Silver.*
I’ve not yet been able to tie down as to whether this change of paint types was also responsible for the change in dayglo hue, but it is a possible hypotheisis. Post 1966, the official colour was Fluorescent Red Orange (Or Red Orange fluorescent in some publications) – it would be interesting to see an AP from beofre then to see how the colour is referred to.
The new Red/White/Grey scheme seems to have first appeared on Gnats in 1969, although it appeared much earlier on other types – the Dominie, for example, entered service with it in 1966 (The first couple were delivered in HSS/Dayglo). One point to note on that scheme on Gnats is that the initial scheme differed as the whole wing was Light Aircraft Grey.
*As an aside, it’s interesting to note that FAA Gannnet T5s seemed to remain in overall aluminium right up until the last was withdrawn in the 70s, whilst other FAA trainers adopted Light Aircraft Grey.
They have mixed the serial with XX944, an ex-Dan Air comet used by the RAE for two years then withdrawn due to corrosion.
Can’t see it in the photo, but remember this as being dorsal fillet-less, version, which would make it a D5. Wrong Hamilton Standard blades too!
It’s a bit of a hybrid.
Notable point
19 Mar 77 Aircraft destroyed in major accident
!!!
Pretty certain they are either painted aluminium or polished metal
Colour behind them looks like the underside colour – not sure if it would be yellow, as I’d expect that to be darker as the picture staken at Blackburn’s at Dumbarton seem to be oethochromatic (Contrasty TSS scheme, blue lighter than red on roundels)
http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dell/blackburn_b20.htm
Aircraft was almost certainly Temperate Sea Scheme of Dark Slate Grey/Extra Dark Sea Grey.
I’d imagine the world financial situation would have impacted on their plans.
Hawk 75 or (More likely?) Tomahawk – hard to tell with no engine.
Fascinating. Three quarters of the way down album one is a head on shot of a chap sat on what appears to be the nose of a Hurricane, but with an Italian-style camouflage. Is it a Hurricane?
Yes, a number of Hurri’s carried this style of camo – the story I read was that it was to make the aircraft look like an Italian one from the front, so that ground convoys didn’t realise it was a Hurri until the last minute.
Some very interesting shots there, especially the captured 109F
LB-30A or Liberator I (B-24A)- Used as a Transport. Pic taken before delivery. Might have a note of the serial, I’ll have a look.
Same image reversed!!
http://www.dark-history.eu/images/A%20RAF%20LB-30A%20Liberator%20in%20flight.jpg
Original vid is apparently available on a DVD, not found the name yet.
I make it 5 variations with Gnats:
– 1965 – Original Signal Red with blue serials, roundels and fin flash
– 1966 – as above, but with CFS crest on on nose and Union Flag on fin
– 1967 – as above with Red/White/Blue fin added
– 1968-77 – as above, but with white flash on forward fuselage & smaller crest
– 1978/9 – ‘Royal Air Force’ on nose flash.
Interesting – next time I’m flying from Luton I must try and get a seat on the LHS and have a look out for it.
Hi Dave
Yes, many thanks for your email.
Our problem for us so far is the TK850 since we cannot see clearly the division line between the uppersurface colors and the undersurface one.
Among that apparently there is only one single photo of this aircraft.
Shouldn’t be more than one?
Kind regards
Santiago
The book at the top of my wants list that I don’t have yet is Tim Mason’s one on the MAEE – it ‘might’ have more.
Have you tried Seawings?