AGWHL have used B class registrations in recent years, one that comes to mind is the Merlin G-17-510
That’s the ones I was thinking of!
One reason we have stopped seeing them so much (besides the fact we don’t make so many aircraft these days) is that they stopped using them on military aircraft, which are instead given serials on the UK Military Register for test flights in the UK.
Can’t remember what on, but I recall seeing a pic of one in the last year or so
Thanks guys – now to post my findings on the modelling forums and get flamed to its!!
(Basically, Airfix mk XIX is too short, Airfix mk IX spot on and every other 1/72 60 series merlin kit I have is also too short!)
Interesting project – it looks like the ‘left wing’ policies of Newcastle council let the bu7nker be preserved ‘as is’
Tony, John – thanks as always!
Dave Fleming
Thanks guys!
I think in 1/72, any difference between the measurements is likely to be minimal!
Supplementary question! How long should the spinner be (in terms of linear length?)
Tony’s rather helpful drawing has one dimension missing I’m looking for – the length of the engine from the frame forward to immediately behind the spinner.
Based on the ’21’ 2″‘ rudder to top of frame dimension, the Airfix kit is 2mm too short, but I want to check that it’s not just that they have the panel line in the wrong place!
I’d go and measure one, but the nearest Griffon to me is somewhat inaccessible (while strafing elephants)
I found the article informative but far too short. The York deserves a whole book to itself as it is very much an unsung hero as far as the Berlin airlift is concerned. Yes, it had its faults but there again so do most aircraft as none of them are perfect. I have never been able to figure out why I have a soft spot for the type but something about it appeals to me. I’ll let you know when I’ve worked out what it is.
There was a book (well a Booklet) on the York published by Alan W Hall Publications back in the early 80s. From memory, it may just have covered the military versions. I have it somewhere.
I suspect that a change in direction at RAFM has prompted a change in direction for the project.
Good thing too.
Bruce
The new boss does seem to be much more positive than I’d seen previously
OK, my brain was engaged on this, so I did a little webbing, if only to prove I ain’t going mad !!
XS695 at Culdrose, note P1127 style wing & outrigger – the later P1127 style carried by XP980
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1028863/
XP984 at Manadon in 1978, with Kestrel style wing, perhaps from XS695
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1135053/
A Wingless XS695 on the same day:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1135053/
The question that raises is which wing is now on XP984 and which the RAFM have , as I have heard that the wings were swapped around and the RAFM have a ‘Kestrel’ wing?? XP984 had a Kestrel wing with vortex generators.
That picture is of P1127 XP984 taken when stored at Lee on Solent. I saw it there just like that when it was briefly included in a Disposals auction, before withrdawal and being sent to BAe for repair. You can clearly see the repair strap that was fixed to the front fuselage after its heavy landing, which rendered it grounded. The wing was actually off the Kestrel IIRC as there had been some sort of swap, presumably whilst at Manadon.
From memory, the wing that XP984 had was that of XS695 (now with the RAF Museum) but the wing on XS695 was more likely to be that from XP980 as it was a P1127 style (As XP984 should have had a Kestrel style wing) but I’d need to go back and dig out the photos taken at Manadon and when they were being used for deck handling to double check.
Just noted the ‘Kestrel’ at the RAFM is actually another P1127 XP980, now as Yeovilton.
It’s actually XP831, now in the Science Museum, ‘Elephants Ear Intakes and proper P1127 wing – XP980 has a Harrier wing from her time on Barrier trials.
AI would imagine that TIGHAR still hold and renew the MOD licence under the PMR Act for this wreck. (I believe they have a “representative” in Wales) That means, therefore, that nobody else is ever likely to get a chance to recover it even if they were in a position to do so.
From previous enquires, I was led to beleive that the MOD could issue a second licence for a site under PMR if they wished to.
Blue as in SR-71 Blue I assume (ie Black!):p
Thanks Pagen01 – if you spot anything do let me know.
I beleive it was refereed to as ‘Dunsfold Blue’
Excellent shots Baz
Dave, I dont know much but as it was taken at StAthan after a major (see my Blog) then I would guess its was paint stripped.
Thanks – I’d tried to read your blog but it wouldn’t open for me – all OK now
Can you tell us more about this one? T4N, but is it painted or stripped back to natural metal?
It was a very dark blue made by mixing blue with black in ratios of 25%/75% IIRC