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(Or should that be ‘en’? Schoolboy French Grade ‘C’)
IMO, two things hammered the nails into the coffin of MRA4
– The fact it was called Nimrod, the name was tarnished, firstly by the AEW3, then more recently by the Afghan crash. After that MRA4 would have had to be 150% more safe than any other aircraft.
– The letter BAE sent the Prime Minister regarding cancellation costs of the Carriers. There is no doubt that Cameron wanted to cancel the second carrier, but the letter from BAE must have really p’d him off. He then had to look around for a second bg ticket item – and here was one that illustrated the ‘waste’ of the previous Govt and the MOD.
The site has apparently had some development on it to do with the new roads network.
Some years ago, someone put up a commemorative stone at the site, which praised ‘brave Rudolph Hess’ which was promptly smashed up by ‘Anti-Nazi League’ protesters, one of whom is now a prominent solicitor (who couunts amongst his clients Tommy Sheridan).
The fact that they took a BBC film crew with them always raised my suspicions.
Good bit about the site in general here:
http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/RudolfHessFlight
(BTW Googling Rudolph Hess throws up some really wierd sites!!
QuePee,
These are fantastic! Many thanks
More? – oooo, YES PLEASE
Indeed.
The Blenhiem does make me wonder what lurks beneath the sands of North Africa!
Still 2 engined though, is it not ??
Mark
Yep, perhaps more confidence in Extended Twin Engined Operations these days, especially in the US who fly C-40s across the Atlantic regularly. But it’s interesting the Japanese have adopted 4 engines for their P-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_P-1
maybe we could buy some of those.
If no off the shelf alternative was available, was the possibility of adapting civilian types currently in service explored, i.e A340, 777 etc ? Surely if this was an option for Future Tanker Project, then why not for a Nimrod replacement ?
Tankers are a lot easier to make than MPA/Multi-sensor platform aircraft.
A340/A330/B777 are also a lot bigger than then RAF wanted – and the RAF wanted a 4 engined design (one reason why the Arlantic lost out to the Nimrod twice).
The P-8A may outwardly be a 737 variant, but talk to those who know the subject and there’s not a lot in common with the airliner than the basic shape. The P-8 is also a medium level design – at the time of Nimrod 2000, we were looking for something that would spend a lot of time at low level.
Nostalgia costs !!!
Why didn’t the RAF/MOD look to EAD or dare I say Boeing for a more modern off the shelf design rather than trying to cobble together something from a 60 year old design and airframe. Surely the problems with the AEW variant should have rung alarm bells in the corridors of White Hall or wherever they make these ludicrous decisions !!!
At the time of the order, the only alternative was Atlantique 2 or refurbished P-3s. There wasn’t a MOTS design available other than those.
If the US hadn’t cancelled the P-7, they would be flying from Kinloss now and Nimrod would be a memory in a Museum.
A lifetime of Comets ….. I was 6 months old when Comet 1 first flew …..
I am 62 years and 1 month when the last of the line is destroyed !! …..
Not a bad innings though …. we have both seen a lot of change …. some for the better ??Keith.
A little while to wait yet Keith – the RAF still has an R1 in service until March
Interesting pic John, especiually as she still carries her civil registration
Qinetiq still uses a Harvard
The CAA said the new policy would mean the maximum number of occupants in all ex-military aircraft would be limited to the number of seats fitted, or four persons, whichever is the more restrictive. In special circumstances, such as military versions of civil types, more passengers may be permitted.
So does this mean the Vulcan is restricted to 4 crew?
just a thaught but could it be australian ??
The mosque in the background would tend to rule that out I think!! 🙂
Ooops, missed the earleir post!
If it’s the one I think it was, it’s a PRIV that was flown in those colours in the Middle east – upper surface was a ‘dark blue’
I recall a story in the press in the 80s (Might have been the Telegraph) about an aircraft (memory says WW2 Bomber) that had crashed into a bog in Yorkshire, and verey so often the gases being produced in the marsh caused it to rise to the surface then sink back down again.
It was told as a sort of ‘monster of the marsh is actually WW2 bomber’ story.
Anyone know if any veracity in that?