Nope, it’s an eagle
http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/theroyalairforcebadge.cfm
Interestingly, the one in the W&B badge is facing the wrong way?
Because it’s one of a pair of handed collar badges!
isnt the eagle actually an albatross??
Nope, it’s an eagle
http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/theroyalairforcebadge.cfm
Interestingly, the one in the W&B badge is facing the wrong way?
Interesting stuff, amazing what is just left lying around! May take a look when up there later in the year!
None for East Fortune then.:(
Not so much the shade, but the type of paint used, and it’d Infra Red Reflectance. The same goes for the current green used on helicopters – in theory, it’s the same shade of Dark Green as used since the late 30s, but depending on ambient light it varies from quite a bright olive green to a very dull dark green
Does anyone have any photos of the S****hawk, the Kinloss Nimrod which was resprayed the wrong colour due to a paint code mixup, and had to go around with a surreal chocolate brown scheme until her next major?
It went back into the hangar only weeks after it was painted and reappeared in the correct hemp finish. It had various bits “artwork” applied ranging from Elsan Air and a dayglo cut out toilet on the fin to Coconut Airways along the fuselage.
I have several photos of it, including with both Coconut Airways and ‘Chameleon Air’ after she was painted in the chosen ‘hemp’ scheme, however they are from a private collection and I don’t have the copyright to post them here. It first in ‘chocolate’ appeared in February 1977, and was repainted by June 1977.
Incidentally, there is another version of the story as to why she was painted in that colour. XV246 was the first aircraft painted in the ‘brown’ scheme, and the report is that she was painted in Dark Earth, but that colour was found to be too dark for the desired aim (To disguise aircraft on the concrete) so the colour that came to be known as ‘Hemp’ (Now Camouflage Beige in BS381C) was adopted instead. This version of events came from a respected researcher.
It should be noted that the colour demarcation on XV246, even when back in Hemp, was different from the rest of the fleet.
martin,
All items that have been brought up were recovered by archeological divers we are cooperating with. The water is shallow at only two metres but everything is in a metre of soft mud with no visibility. The only way to see what is found is by bringing it up. We are also keeping the Recovery Officer of the RNetAF informed on regular basis and by every legal means to continue this preliminary investigation. It takes time but it’s worth it.
Cees
At that depth it’s obscene and a scandal if they aren’t recovered and given a proper burial.
What’s the airframe like Cees? Is it in any state for recovery?
Owen Thetford gives XG603 as a C3 and XM295, XM296 and XR391 as C4s with the RAF. This in a section at the back of his book ‘Aircraft of the Royal Air Force since 1918’. No mention of any secondments of course!
And his similar tome on the FAA gives Sea Heron C20 XR441 -445.
IIRC ex-RAF Herons retained their RAF mk no for paperwork reasons (e.g. technical manuals)
The tail codes weren’t fixed, and the airframes moved around, so without knowing the actual date of the photo it’s hard to be specific.
I’ll have a look and see if I have anything though.
The Nimrod wings are one step further evolved from the Comet 4, in that the engines are RR Speys, with much larger intakes and trunking. Outboard of the engines, they are similar, but have a different shape of trailing edge (from the 1/2). Have another look at the drawings and photgraphs and you see how different they actually are.
Even a C2 wing differs from a mk 1 in that the C2 has ‘toed out’ sweep on the engines at the trailing edge, whereas the 1 had straight through engine mountings. (notwithstanding some changes on the leading edge shape as well as the intakes)
There would be a LOT if tin bashing and scratchbuilding to make a Comet 1 wing out of a Nimrod
Working from memory here (always dangerous) but isn’t some of the testing related to the wing spar, hence the big jack? Even empty shells in museums need some internat sturcture to support them.
Couldn’t agree with you more.
I don’t know what the bloody hell BAe are playing at, out of all the airframes they can choose to use for all this destructive testing, they use one of these? .
What else COULD they do Vulcan (XH558) related testing on? A Nimrod?
Whether this was P-61A 25496 that was tested at Boscombe Down or a war weary ex-USAAF is not clear.
It was – there was a photograph of it in Aeroplane Monthly in the early 90s. It was also painted Olive Drab over gray, so may not be ‘black’
Re the Soviet stuff – it appeared on the dump in the early 90s IIRC, having been held in various Departments for a long time (at least since Suez in one circumstance – I once spoke to someone who saw Soviet systems there in the early 60s) and was ‘cleared out’ when DERA/DRA/RAE were moving out.
Begs the question
What’s happening (or not) with the East Fortune one?
Not a lot