To answer the original post, the colours are Signal Red and Light Aircraft Grey (and white) The wings are grey.
BS nos are BS381C no 541 Signal Red and BS381C no 627 Ligh Aircraft Grey
The RB-45s flew operationally as ‘RAF crewed’ aircraft so it is possible that, if he did fly on one of the operational missions, he was issued with an RAF Logbook to continue the deception if crashed (BUt logbooks aren’t flown are they?)
More likley is he was given an RAF log book while working with & training the RAF Flight at Sculthorpe
Then let’s not forget the trial in Afghanistan – couldn’t do hot ‘n’ high or take -off with a usable weapons load,
Ironically, that was one of the reasons we dumped the Sea Harrier.
NATO always under-rated the Yak-38. Remember ‘it could only do VTOL on Carriers’ then a squadron of them appeared on one of the Kiev class doing STOVL.
Regarding the fatalities tables, and the dates in question, you have to consider the USMC losses as well – and the environment that the RAF and USMC operated the aircraft. The Forgers were not used low level over central Europe!
Mmm, not sure Jasper’s photo shows either the full four colour Temparate Land scheme nor one of the Tropical schemes in use either – if you note, the darker green is outlined, whereas the shadow shading scheme is upper/lower fuselage division
My suspicion is that the ‘border’ might be Dark Earth, left as an edge from painting over the Dark Earth on a european schemed aircraft with light earth for use in the Middle east. Dependant on when it was first painted, as this aircraft was in the Middle East in 1939, it may have been painted in the ‘Munich’ scheme of Dark Earth/Dark Green uppers only
Edit – incidentally, the aircraft shown in the photo is quite a famous Gladiator, L7619. It’s illustrated in the Osprey book on Gladiator Aces, but I have’t got that to see the profiles in there
Due to the different weight of the R-1820, to preserve the CoG the section of the fuselage behind the cowling was longer on the IV as well.
As I’m sure Andy knows, and Paul may, this is no UK-size lake. Windermere, the UK’s largest (natural lake) is less than 6 square miles surface area, while Sebago is 45 square miles area! Windermere is deep at a max of 220 ft, but this is half again at 316 ft max.
James, sorry, but you are slightly wrong here. Loch Lomond is the largest freshwater natural lake in Great Britain (27 Sq Miles, deepest point 600 feet), and Lough Neah is the largest in the UK (151 Square Miles although not that deep, at max 80 feet).
Loch Ness is 21 Sq Miles, but can be up to 750 feet deep
No real problem with them (Once they were able to use any credit card to confirm your ID and not just the one you booked with – PITA for those on corporate bookings!), in fact in some circumstances preferrable
The good thing is if you only have hand luggage you don’t have to wait in a long queue (often multi-flight) and you can choose your own seat. Of course, if you do have hold luggage, you tyhen have to go and join the ‘Fast’ bag drop queue anyway!!
That said, I check in online most times these days, so bypass that part altogether!
R7881 spent the winter at Langley where the fitting of the AI VI was completed and it was painted in the then current NF sceme of Medium Sea Grey with Dark Green disruptive pattern. It went to RAE Farnborough for trials in April 43 and on to FIU Ford in June. It was with FIU for a year, then flown to 3 Tactical Exercise Unit at Honiley (they were short of Typhoons). By 21 September 1944 it was with Marshall at Cambridge where it was rebuilt and redelivered to 51MU in May 1945. Scrapped there, September 1946.
At some point she also was fitted with the four bladed prop as well (and possibly the Tempest tailplane). F.K Mason apparently claimed she was painted in a sand/green experimental night fighter scheme as well.
I wouldn’t have thought that something that was nominally added to the estate of a deceased person post-mortem would attract the kind of duty you suggest – although I could be wrong! I don’t even know if it can legally be added to that estate, either. We don’t know the intricacies/legalities of how this VC was “added” to the Chris John Collection but I would strongly suspect that anyone making such an investment would take steps to ensure that said investment was protected from the ever grasping taxman!
Was thinking more of Mr Reid’s estate.
I used to know someone who was a near neighbour of Mr Reid, always spoke highly of him.
I wonder if that is now liable for inheritance tax or Capital Gains (or both – would a medal be included in valuation of an estate?)
It’s interesting that you can sell a VC but not the US Medal of Honor.
Jeez:rolleyes:
Thanks Dave, not the first time I’ve been caught out by old threads re-emerging!:o
This one got me as well at first!!
You contact the TNA at Kew or RCAHMS, simples. All the info held is freely available for anyone to look at, and at cosyt usually to copy.
Must admit I thought that the aerial photography section moved to Scotland a while back.
Welsh airfields (and all military) is held by the National Assembley archives.
It did – this thread is almost two years old
Alpha Jet? There are a few of the in private hands in the States
Odd thing for RAFM to take on – doesnt seem their sort of thing at all!
Still nice to see a bit of local history that I wasnt aware of until recently…
Bruce
Is a bit – but then as RAFM property it could be preserved and loaned out to an appropriate museum with proper safeguards, rather than be scrapped.