Like the Cosford Heyford……
Could they be mixing up the BBMF with the FAA Historic Flight?
Back to the original question (Gaps in the collection) how about:
Mustang I or II
Airacobra
MitchellDid the RAFM have a Ventura at some time?
The Ventura is in storage (I think at Cosford now). they do have a Mitchell at Hendon, a TB-25J – IIRC it’s painted in USAAF colours.
From the British point of view, the only ones that were used in combat operations are, as Moggy says, very few.
The He115s that escaped from Norway were the most famous, and some Storch in North Africa
Errr… What exactly has the bog monster got to do with Wellingtons?
http://www.prankplace.com/toiletmonster.htm
Adrian
LOL!
There is a story, which may be just a rural myth, of an aircraft, allegedly a Wimpey which crashed into a bog near an airfield in Yorkshire during the war. Every so often bog gasses would cause the aircraft to rise to the surface, emit loud parping noises and then sink again.
My suspicion is it’s a nice story.
Don’t all the Viking/Valetta/Varsity family have geodetic construction underneath the metal skinned wings?
What happened to the lower fuselage recovered from a beach on the Western Isles a few years back?
And there is the story of the ‘bog monster’ “Somewhere in Yorkshire”!!
Thanks for that Dave!
The Harrier is being picked up tomorrow morning.
Any Forumites passing by at the Show please identify yourselves!!
Cheers,
Ian.
I may well do that! Can I get a shot?
Well, why not find out? It’s a basic principle, discussed in most undergraduate archaeology textbooks. As a reference, I mentioned the Sutton Hoo burrials. The first excavation was in 1930 – the latter ones more recent, and some interesting issues of the site’s history.
But then what is taught is the accepted ethic – not neccessarily the correct one! If no-one ever challenged a view, we wouldn’t progress.
I heard about the Defiant story in a quote from the former curator of the Museum of Flight at East Fortune (who went west to Oshkosh)
Interesting. I’ve seen the Potez on many occasion when travelling into/out of Sumburgh. Glad it’s been saved.
At least one ‘spotter’ identified it to me as a ‘French Jetstream’…..
Erm – RAF Museum have a (ex Dutch) Lockheed Neptune at Cosford :rolleyes: 🙂
TT
Yes, but it would be nice to have an original ex-RAF example instead – IIRC there was one available in the States a few years back in original unrestored/unconverted form.
That would be nice to have.
Others would have to fill a gap in the collection – they don’t have a Hawk yet for example.
A Brewster Buffalo is not impossible – one of the books on the Far East Campaign mentions a Buffalo that was buried in a river bank – it apparently re-emerged in the 60s, but was re-buried.
Or they could amend what they have – It would be nice to see the ‘bitsa’ Mustang in RAF Markings for example. Or restore the Ventura.
Yep. This from ‘Air Classics’ in June 2003.
Mark
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MESSERSCHMITT MEMORABILIA
Enjoyed your article on the Me 262 Project and the sidebar on the Bf 109 at Paine Field during 1942. I am enclosing a postcard sent to my father from my uncle during May 1942. Apparently, the aircraft was on display in St. Louis as part of a war bond drive and appears to be the same fighter in your photo. Also, the photo states there were over 5000 signatures on the aircraft from Americans who donated to the drive.
Wayne Nees
1423 Coachlight
De Soto, MO
63020
Editor’s Note: Mr. Nees is correct, it is the same Messerschmitt. The aircraft apparently made numerous stops across the United States during the war bond drive. As a point of interest, the plane (Messerschmitt 109E-6 WNr 1190) eventually found its way to Canada where it went to the Canadian Civil Defense College. In the 1960s, it could be found in sad shape in an auto junkyard in Ontario. In 1966, the Messerschmitt was purchased by Peter Foote and moved to Hurn, England, where it remained in storage until recently being obtained by the Royal Air Force Museum where it is now proudly on display at Hendon, England.
Ooops! Editor getting his history a bit mixed up!
No Spitfire and The Hurricane is P3101
Interesting to know what is just below the surface in your area! Must go for a walk on the beach someday, see what I find!
Another wreck in the Forth, although one as likely to be found as the M52, is an Albatros DV that crashed there during a test flight from Turnhouse during WW1.
NMS had data from sonar scans of Loch Ness that suggested an intact Defiant is somewhere down there.
In my opinion, a USAF version of the T-45C, would be the best option.
Mmm, de-navalise the T-45 – I wonder what that would look like!!
IIRC the USAF now only has one supersonic flight per student during it’s advanced training program, so replacing the T-38 would not neccessarily involve a supersonic aircraft.
There is the mk 1 Sunderland wreck in Pembroke Dock/Milford Haven that was on the telly a years or so back…………………..