bring back public execution??

It’s always the way, in this soft touch country, the victims always suffer the most, nothing changes does it. No wonder Brits are emigrating , crime is going through the roof. I think it will get a lot worse in the future, and we wont be able to do much about it.
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HEAVY METAL..

Please lets hear some more of your life story Pete, it’s not at all boring.
Back in the 60s my father played the Violin as a hobby, and I had to suffer that noise most evenings, when he returned from work. Once a week, he would take his violin around his friends house who also played the Violin, and spend the evening making a racket, well to my ears anyway.
One evening I had the misfortune, if you want to call it that, to be passing the local methodist church hall. Even before I got there I could hear this new sound I hadn’t heard before. But standing there next to the front door, I was amazed that the windows were vibrating ‘ This was a bass guitar, and hearing that sound along with the rest of the band just blew me away. Here was a sound far better than that old fiddle , much more exciting and very loud. They must have been using some very powerful valve amps, because it was quite a big hall. Unfortunately I didn’t get a chance to go in and see them playing, as the door was locked. Here I am at 51 years of age, and still love the heavy metal sound, much better than that classical stuff.:D 😀
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The HSE are trying to intervene and have issued circulars on the abuse of H&S law to justify stupid decisions. However there is such an inertia to things like this it’s like turning one of those 1970’s oil tankers around, takes time. This really needs the employers to act and start employing H&S managers who know their subject rather than just over reacting and taking the soft option by banning anything without actually looking at legal requirements.

Well perhaps the H&S executive should put things straight, by contacting the media, and making this clear to idiots like me. Most people think H&S is over reacting in certain situations, can you blame them for thinking that?
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This thread is a good example of several different issues being confused with the result that people are blaming certain regulations for stuff that has nothing to do with those regulations.
On a wider note, one of the reasons i still enjoy living in the UK is that we tend to be a reasonably tolerant and open minded people with a live and let live attitude to most things, to me that makes the shambolic roads, mediocre public transport, government incompetence in how they spend our money etc. bearable as I enjoy the freedom we have here. I can say I believe religeon is a load of hocus pocus (which I do) just as anybody is free to believe in any religeon, we can disagree over politics, the arts and anything else. However, sometimes I feel the tabloid press, egged on by the sort of dimmock cretins who can’t differentiate between paedophile and paediatrician, are trying to take the country back to the dark ages. Sad.

If it’s true what you say about misinterpretation of H&S law, why doesn’t the government step in and sort this mess out. The newspapers quite clearly show, that people are totally confused by H&S law. You always here about this or that being banned for H&S reasons, newspapers surely can’t be making this up.
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And that is an excellent example of somebody in your safety department who has not bothered reading HSE guidelines or is too lazy too, so has brought in blanket measures and blamed safety legislation. This is exactly the sort of stuff getting safety a bad name, but it is NOT health and safety law or the HSE responsible for stuff like that. I work in possibly the most tightly regulated industry in the UK and soldering wires in an office would be classed as Category 2 work not needing a permit or hot work certificate as it is core skills work in a non hazardous area. If you are angry, get angry with your employer or whoever manages this client, not the HSE.

Well I can see your point of view on H&S. Regarding the electricity sub station, I do think though, that the electricity company are worried about getting sued, in case a youngster gets hurt at that sub station. So they go mad with the warning signs, using H&S as their defence against being sued. Seems logical to me, in this age of litigation.;)
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Freezing…

Interesting how things have changed over the years. I can remember as a child having a bath in one of those old galvanised metal bath tubs. In the winter we had a coal fire, and the bath tub was put near it every Sunday night. I can remember my bedroom was very cold, so cold in fact, that there was a build up of frost inside one of the windows on a few occasions. It’s surprising I didn’t get pneumonia considering the room temp must have been about 5 Celsius.:D 😀 Outside temp must have been below freezing Brrrrrrrr.
The toilet or should I say lavatory, as it was called, was outside. Unfortunately the door faced towards the north, and those cold North winds in the winter certainly blew a cold draught into there. One didn’t spend to long in there, that’s for sure, as there wasn’t any heating. The toilet paper left a lot to be desired, torn up newspaper.:eek:
On one occasion the lead water pipe inside the lavatory froze up, and I can remember my dad using a paraffin blow torch to melt the ice inside the pipe.
Quite funny, thinking about it really, certainly seems primitive looking back on it all.:D 😀 😀 😀
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Freezing…

Interesting how things have changed over the years. I can remember as a child having a bath in one of those old galvanised metal bath tubs. In the winter we had a coal fire, and the bath tub was put near it every Sunday night. I can remember my bedroom was very cold, so cold in fact, that there was a build up of frost inside one of the windows on a few occasions. It’s surprising I didn’t get pneumonia considering the room temp must have been about 5 celsius.:D 😀 Outside temp must have been below freezing Brrrrrrrr.
The toilet or should I say lavatory, as it was called, was outside. Unfortunately the door faced towards the north, and those cold North winds in the winter certainly blew a cold draught into there. One didn’t spend to long in there, that’s for sure, as there wasn’t any heating. The toilet paper left a lot to be desired, torn up newspaper.:eek:
On one occasion the lead water pipe inside the lavatory froze up, and I can remember my dad using a paraffin blow torch to melt the ice inside the pipe.
Quite funny, thinking about it really, certainly seems primitive looking back on it all.:D 😀 😀 😀
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I was looking around youtube the other day when i found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyHgdDOUyHs

Take time to read the comments as well.

Now, being a citizen of the UK i am equally appalled by the views of those in the video calling for enemies of Islam to be killed and by those of the people that made the film and left the comments. Incidentally at the end of the video it claims that the creator was a reverend, a video like this made by a priest of all people!!!!!

The sentiment of the video and the comments worries me more than the problem with Islamic extremism frankly, and the pond life that made the comments clearly have 3 brain cells between them. But when i see two groups of people in my own homeland that want to both revert to a primeval state of intolerance and violence based on bigotry and ignorance, it makes me genuinely sad and worried.

I just wanted to vent these feelings somewhere where i thought that we might have and intelligent, frank discussion on the matter, and this is the only place i know for that in this crazy world.

Jordan

Nothing changes does it, still the same old world with the same old problems. Once again I fear we are heading for trouble, one more upset in the history of mankind.
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