:rolleyes:

wasent supossed to be this one ???

http://fightercountry.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/T50-cockpit-defencenet-300×200.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5802/wait4me90.36/0_4b9d9_b1a365ed_orig

Could you see the gaps between panels 😉 I think the real cockpit should has a better finish and maybe some suprises…:rolleyes:

Turkey cannot tolerate higher spending either. It has $80b of trade deficit. for that it needs external financing otherwise its currency will be in toilet. its recent pro arab policies are its need for that financing.

Its your thesis about Turkey but an country which has ambitious plans at both military and civil sphere needs more money than an unprogressive country! Today Turkey is an technology creating country at both military and civil sphere and its future is bright even without any financial support!

And I would like to remind you TF-X program officially started by Turkey and the conceptual design is supposed to be finish in 2013 than everything will be more clear if how will the Turkey develop its future fighter and advanced jet trainer aircraft indigenously 😉

doesnt Turkey already have KT-1s for the job.. brand new ones at that

Its an indigenous one 😉

Turkish Air Force(TuAF) F-16s logged 32,000 hours of flight time without accident or abort between 1993 and 2001 over Bosnia and Kosova under NATO command. In Operation Allied Action(Kosova War), Turkish 191. KOBRA squadron F-16s dropped total of 42 tons of bombs in CAS sorties and flew CAP missions with AIM-120B AMRAAMS and AIM-9M Sidewinders. In one of the combat missions, 2 Turkish F-16s stayed airborne more than 9 hours and 30 minutes with 4 air refueling conducted at night. This was a record time for Turkish F-16 pilots. Besides Bosnia and Kosova wars, TuAF participated PKK operations in Northern Iraq, participated Red Flag-97/2000 with a success, Anatolian Eagle exercise are is developed to give constant training for TuAF and Allied pilots. Anatolian Eagle is a replica of the Red Flag and it contains EW training area, ACM area with dedicated aggressors(F-16s and F-5/2000)and real SAM threats add reality in the exercise for preparing pilots for future air wars.

To give forumers some insight about TuAF, I would like to give summary of inventory:
220 F-16 Block-30/40/50 including 2 LANTIRN squadrons with Block-40s since 1994. First Operational LANTIRN squadron operated by TuAF after USAF since 1994. LANTIRN squadrons operate Paveway-II LGBs, MAverick AGM-65D/G, Cluster bombs, Mk-series bombs. After planned CCIP upgrade program, JHMS with Aim-9X, Popeye-2, GPS guided weapons are expected to be in service around 2008. Currently TuAF has around 300 AMRAAMS in the inventory mostly Aim-120A and Bs. Only SEAD squadron 151. Tunc squadron operates AGM-88B HARMs…

52 F-4E/2020 Terminators with advance cockpit, EL/M-2032 SAR/GMTI radar, EL/M-2022 ECM pods and Popeye-1/2 capability. Additional “old” 60 F-4Es are in use today, possibility of upgrade and extending their life under consideration.

38 RF-4E with LOROP rec. pods that can download instant data and pictures to ground stations. 42 Pods had been ordered in 1999 and first pods entered service in 2003.

48 F-5/2000 are used for LIFT purposes for advance pilot training. These F-5s gained new cockpits with new generation avionics including HUD,HOTAS, GPS/INS Navigation, MFDs, UHF/VHF Have Quick radios, VTRs, and new MK-15J ejection seats.

7 KC-135R Tankers cockpits upgraded in PACER CRAG program.

13 C-130B/E, 18 C-160, 50 CN-235 are in use for transportation duties.

20 AS-532AL Cougars deployed around the country for CSAR/SAR missions. In addition, around 14 UH-1H also operated for SAR duties.

For the future:

4 B-737 AEW&C contract is signed with an option of 2 additional airplanes. Expected delivery will be in 2007-2008.

150-200 F-35A is expected to be ordered by TuAF to replace F-16s and F-4s after 2010. Turkey is Level-II participant in the project.

10 A-400M ordered. Turkey is participating A-400M project and will receive one of the first production a/c to replace C-130s.

I hope the information above gives some idea about the capabilities of TuAF.

Regards

Feridun

Thanks for the great summary Feridun and maybe we can add two new F-35A order too 😉

Experts? Can you please provide your expert sources? I have one for you right here from http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-JSF-Analysis.html

In comparing the JSF and F-22A in strike roles, the divergent deep strike optimisation of the F-22A and battlefield strike optimisation of the JSF are telling. The F-22A is much more survivable as it is stealthier and supercruising. However, the F-22A in its current configuration lacks the extensive electro-optical suite and radar modes of the JSF, required for battlefield interdiction and close air support. The JSF will have better loiter performance, especially at low altitudes, and carries a larger internal bomb payload, where these are JDAMs, but identical where these are the SDB. Yet on long range strike profiles, the F-22A achieves similar ‘productivity’ in bomb deliveries as the JSF as it can transit to and from targets almost twice as fast, both requiring generous tanking to achieve F-111 class strike radii or on station persistence.

And another one for everyone on the thread. This says a lot: http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-300309-1.html

You can find the videos on youtube, its easy…

The F-35 should in no way be thought of as a Air-to-Air superiority fighter as its primary mission. The best mission it can have is close air support of troops on the ground.

According the experts because of its aerodynamic configuration and weight, it can’t fly at low altitutes so its not an close air support aircraft! But it has great electronics and radar system, so it can be a fighter killer by its smart weapons and can make presicion bombing! So the comparison should be mostly about the radar systems, electronics, weapons and with their stealth capabilities. At close air combat in my opinion the winner should be the PAK-FA with its fighting capabilities, but comparing their avionics, electronics, software and weapons is very hard for today…

Good for Azerbaijan Airforce, wish we could see Mi-28NE too:)