EGPHGD topic me thinks. I personally think, without naming names, that some mods here are a bit tough however one mod I can recall is always very fair and courteous :). However I am far from a regular poster however I think discussing what we really think of the mods is a good idea though perhaps a PM to the webmaster outlining exactly what you think is wrong and naming names is the right way to go about voicing complaints about the mods. As I have just finished explaining to a friend of mine people are humans and they make mistakes, whether at the controls of a forum or that Ryanair 737-800 you are about to fly on!:diablo:.
EGPHWould it be cheating to say Michael O’Leary’s bunch??:diablo: Although I must admit on my second flight with them the flight deck crew couldn’t have been nicer at the end of the flight when I popped into their office for a chat!
Apart from that I have never had bad airline service, between, GSM (R.I.P), MON (who were always very nice!), Air Europa, Futura, Astraeus and Air Malta (again lovely staff).
EGPHIt seems that only a few people on this thread are prepared to believe that he had a genuine mental illness.
From my limited experience of my daughter suffering from a condition which is similar to bi-polar,but in a much milder form,I’m pretty sure that he was sane enough to know right from wrong.However,a person suffering from this condition just doesn’t think in a normal rational manner.You or I would never agree to transport a suitcase full of God-knows-what for complete strangers,but presumably he had no doubts about doing so.
I’ve heard not one word of condemnation for the people prepared to expose a mentally-ill man to certain death if caught.
I don’t in any way condone drug trafficking and this may be one of the few crimes where the death penalty is appropriate.
I see the Chinese are proclaiming their “humanity ” in letting his relatives visit him before he was executed.
It’s a pity that any such humanity couldn’t have been extended to spare this man’s life.
I simply do not know whether he did or did not. A Foreign Office minister was on BBC News saying that the British Government had ample evidence to support this view and all the relevant documentation was sent to the Chinese authorities who couldn’t have been less interested in this fact! I for one would never ever carry anything someone I did not know very well without knowing exactly what it was I was carrying. I know people with learning difficulties myself and many of them are extremely naive! However I would have thought bi-polar disorder would not have stopped you checking what you were carrying for your friend! Though I am not well informed on this so could be totally wrong. However I am not so naive as to think that it could just be one big excuse! I would like to think not but who knows!
I totally agree with you that the real villains here are those that gave him the drugs to carry not Akmal Shaikh!
EGPHIt seems that only a few people on this thread are prepared to believe that he had a genuine mental illness.
From my limited experience of my daughter suffering from a condition which is similar to bi-polar,but in a much milder form,I’m pretty sure that he was sane enough to know right from wrong.However,a person suffering from this condition just doesn’t think in a normal rational manner.You or I would never agree to transport a suitcase full of God-knows-what for complete strangers,but presumably he had no doubts about doing so.
I’ve heard not one word of condemnation for the people prepared to expose a mentally-ill man to certain death if caught.
I don’t in any way condone drug trafficking and this may be one of the few crimes where the death penalty is appropriate.
I see the Chinese are proclaiming their “humanity ” in letting his relatives visit him before he was executed.
It’s a pity that any such humanity couldn’t have been extended to spare this man’s life.
I simply do not know whether he did or did not. A Foreign Office minister was on BBC News saying that the British Government had ample evidence to support this view and all the relevant documentation was sent to the Chinese authorities who couldn’t have been less interested in this fact! I for one would never ever carry anything someone I did not know very well without knowing exactly what it was I was carrying. I know people with learning difficulties myself and many of them are extremely naive! However I would have thought bi-polar disorder would not have stopped you checking what you were carrying for your friend! Though I am not well informed on this so could be totally wrong. However I am not so naive as to think that it could just be one big excuse! I would like to think not but who knows!
I totally agree with you that the real villains here are those that gave him the drugs to carry not Akmal Shaikh!
EGPHI don’t often agree with newspaper headlines but I’m inclined to agree with one I saw this morning, which was to the effect of ‘how can Britain moralise with China over its drug policy when the British people idolise a well known drug taker like **** **** (insert name of well known ‘supermodel’). The newspaper was not one of the populist redtops, either.
These are two completely different things! I have never touched drugs and don’t plan to go anywhere near them in my life. I certainly would not idolise anyone who took drugs, to an extent, because there are issues with addiction and the like. Therefore I would not treat them with contempt unless their behaviour warranted that. China’s decision to execute a British citizen who MAY have been mentally ill is a decision taken by the judiciary which the government had ample opportunity to overturn and show clemency. I believe the UK government is in its rights to plead with the Chinese authorities to show mercy. The British people may well idolise drug taking supermodels but this has nothing to do with the government, it is the British people! I believe that the drug policy of the British criminal justice system is fair enough. The government can’t really do very much about who is idolised, so unless there are statues of a well known supermodel in front of government offices then the idolisation of such people has nothing to do with the government! This was a decision taken by China despite a number of pleas by the British authorities for mercy! We would not have let him go off scot free but we would not have dealt with him in a cruel, inhumane and degrading way! The Chinese government make me sick and something should be done about those scumbags!
EGPHI don’t often agree with newspaper headlines but I’m inclined to agree with one I saw this morning, which was to the effect of ‘how can Britain moralise with China over its drug policy when the British people idolise a well known drug taker like **** **** (insert name of well known ‘supermodel’). The newspaper was not one of the populist redtops, either.
These are two completely different things! I have never touched drugs and don’t plan to go anywhere near them in my life. I certainly would not idolise anyone who took drugs, to an extent, because there are issues with addiction and the like. Therefore I would not treat them with contempt unless their behaviour warranted that. China’s decision to execute a British citizen who MAY have been mentally ill is a decision taken by the judiciary which the government had ample opportunity to overturn and show clemency. I believe the UK government is in its rights to plead with the Chinese authorities to show mercy. The British people may well idolise drug taking supermodels but this has nothing to do with the government, it is the British people! I believe that the drug policy of the British criminal justice system is fair enough. The government can’t really do very much about who is idolised, so unless there are statues of a well known supermodel in front of government offices then the idolisation of such people has nothing to do with the government! This was a decision taken by China despite a number of pleas by the British authorities for mercy! We would not have let him go off scot free but we would not have dealt with him in a cruel, inhumane and degrading way! The Chinese government make me sick and something should be done about those scumbags!
EGPHThis case makes me sick. Now I am the PRC’s harshest critic politically. It is not just this but nearly everything that stinking country’s mentally ill government does is utterly repugnant. I hate that country’s government more than anything else on earth, give me Mugabe rather than those Chinese scumbags. It’s just pity that most of the Chinese people I have met here are such lovely and courteous people, they deserve better than what they have. That man should have been properly assessed by psychiatrist and their opinion taken into account, instead China just rubbished all claims of mental illness because all they wanted to do was to kill that man. The ambassador to the UK of that evil dictatorship said that he understood the strength of feeling in the UK but then chose not to take into consideration! I believe he would have been fairly dealt with in this country, after being given a mental health assessment, he would have been dealt with by our justice system. It is sad that this evil dictatorship is so militarily strong and cannot be dealt with in the same way as Herr Hitler was 70 years ago! Before I get thrown off here, long live China, it’s people and it’s brilliant culture and food!! However it’s repugnant, dictatorial and massively corrupt government can burn in the depths of hell!
EGPHThis case makes me sick. Now I am the PRC’s harshest critic politically. It is not just this but nearly everything that stinking country’s mentally ill government does is utterly repugnant. I hate that country’s government more than anything else on earth, give me Mugabe rather than those Chinese scumbags. It’s just pity that most of the Chinese people I have met here are such lovely and courteous people, they deserve better than what they have. That man should have been properly assessed by psychiatrist and their opinion taken into account, instead China just rubbished all claims of mental illness because all they wanted to do was to kill that man. The ambassador to the UK of that evil dictatorship said that he understood the strength of feeling in the UK but then chose not to take into consideration! I believe he would have been fairly dealt with in this country, after being given a mental health assessment, he would have been dealt with by our justice system. It is sad that this evil dictatorship is so militarily strong and cannot be dealt with in the same way as Herr Hitler was 70 years ago! Before I get thrown off here, long live China, it’s people and it’s brilliant culture and food!! However it’s repugnant, dictatorial and massively corrupt government can burn in the depths of hell!
EGPHYes, of course you are quite right about the thread and what we should be concentrating on. Nevertheless whatever the minority leader maintains, legally, the administration remains the Executive in law and the media should use the correct terminology, not a re-branded version to endow it with more power than it has.
You are right, I just hope that when the SNP lose their power that this will be one of the first things to be repealed! I don’t think in practice the name change does anything other than change a name. In North Ireland the executive is called just that, however upon a quick Google search the executive of Wales is called the Government! Anyway, I just hope all this nationalist tripe comes to nothing!
EGPHYes, of course you are quite right about the thread and what we should be concentrating on. Nevertheless whatever the minority leader maintains, legally, the administration remains the Executive in law and the media should use the correct terminology, not a re-branded version to endow it with more power than it has.
You are right, I just hope that when the SNP lose their power that this will be one of the first things to be repealed! I don’t think in practice the name change does anything other than change a name. In North Ireland the executive is called just that, however upon a quick Google search the executive of Wales is called the Government! Anyway, I just hope all this nationalist tripe comes to nothing!
EGPHThe Scottish Executive was renamed to Scottish Government to allow the less intelligent people of Scotland to understand its role. Mr Salmond is so positive about Scottish people isn’t he!!
I think this thread should concentrate more on the memory of all those innocent people who passed away that night and not the more recent c**k up by the Scottish Government (prev. Executive) to release a guilty terrorist home to die!
If you want to complain about the Scottish Government, complain about all the cheap nationalist stunts to try and raise Scot’s national pride in preparation for a referendum which thy are obviously going to lose. Free Scottish themed street parties at any given moment, Homecoming Scotland and now there is talk of a Scottish “Hollywood Walk of Fame”. All these stunts to try and talk a sceptical Scottish people to come round to the SNP way of thinking!!
EGPHThe Scottish Executive was renamed to Scottish Government to allow the less intelligent people of Scotland to understand its role. Mr Salmond is so positive about Scottish people isn’t he!!
I think this thread should concentrate more on the memory of all those innocent people who passed away that night and not the more recent c**k up by the Scottish Government (prev. Executive) to release a guilty terrorist home to die!
If you want to complain about the Scottish Government, complain about all the cheap nationalist stunts to try and raise Scot’s national pride in preparation for a referendum which thy are obviously going to lose. Free Scottish themed street parties at any given moment, Homecoming Scotland and now there is talk of a Scottish “Hollywood Walk of Fame”. All these stunts to try and talk a sceptical Scottish people to come round to the SNP way of thinking!!
EGPHAbsolutely great shots there mate! Very well done braving the freezing temperatures to go shooting! I really aught to get down to the airport one of those days! Really sad to see the GSM aircraft in such a state! They really were a fantastic airline! I travelled on G-MSJF once and actually sat on her captain’s seat, one of the best moments of my life :p
EGPHIn response to Arthur’s post I think he has a very valid point. I once saw a poster in one of my class rooms at school which said something like, “I long for the day that the education system is given as much money as it needs and armies have to hold jumble sales to fund their wars” so true me thinks!!
As for what I would do with my £5 billion, probably not much, maybe modernise any weapons the army are using or whatever the rank and file soldiers feel they need to do their job. The rest can go to charities such as RAFBF and similar organisations!!!
EGPHReally nice to see a snapshot of LHR operations 20 years ago! There is more than one aircraft in that video still flying either for the same airline or with another carrier! In my opinion by far the best aircraft was left till last!!
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