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  • in reply to: DVD footage of Amiens Prison raid ! #1145518
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    More on The Raid from The BBC !

    WWII veteran recalls Jericho raid
    Liz Lewis
    BBC News, Bristol

    Mr Dunlop’s aircraft was one of the first to drop its payload
    On the 65th anniversary of an audacious World War II bombing raid on a Gestapo prison, one of the few survivors has spoken of his part in the dangerous mission.
    Operation Jericho was devised to give 100 French patriots the chance to escape the firing squad, scheduled for 19 February 1944, at Amiens Prison in occupied Northern France.
    Mosquitos of the 2nd Tactical Air Force were detailed to fly as low as possible over the Channel and then on to Amiens.

    You never knew whether you were going to come back or not but you never thought that you wouldn’t
    Cecil Dunlop
    Once there they were to to dive-bomb the high prison walls.
    Pilot Officer Cecil Dunlop, 92, from Bath, was on one of the first bombers to fly over the prison and drop his payload.
    The planes flew so low – below the level of the prison roof – the crews could see the prisoners running out.
    “It was exciting,” recalled Mr Dunlop.
    The blast breached the walls of the prison and, while the explosion unfortunately killed 102 prisoners, 258 escaped, including 79 political prisoners.

    Flight Officer Dunlop’s plane was hit on the way back to Britain
    Mr Dunlop’s son David said: “There was snow on the ground when they flew over and they looked down and they could see the prisoners escaping – all these black dots running around.”
    The mission was completed with the loss of only two aircraft and Operation Jericho proved that the Mosquito was able to perform precision bombing raids.
    Years later Mr Dunlop and his son met one of the prisoners the raid freed.
    “He told us he’d been in solitary confinement and he’d got a rat for company,” said David Dunlop.
    On the way back to Britain the plane was hit by anti-aircraft guns.
    “You never knew whether you were going to come back or not but you never thought that you wouldn’t,” said Cecil Dunlop.

    in reply to: DVD footage of Amiens Prison raid ! #1145528
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    Andy nice story on pilot officer John Benzie

    Andy:

    Nice well research story in the latest AFTER THE BATTLE..# 147..enjoyed this very much Looking forward to getting you book..”.Finding The Few” ! If the Amiens did not carry the Code Name ” Jericho’t that time…was there another name it was refered to ? Like a numerical number ?

    Thanks

    BlueNoser352

    in reply to: DVD footage of Amiens Prison raid ! #1145530
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    Julian thanks for your comments here on Amiens

    Julian:

    Thanks so much for your comments here on this topic..you have added new information to this topic . This subject matter is of course much closer to the people in the UK. But this particular mission has held my attention for a long time and finding informaiton on it has been somewhat limited. The internet thank goodness has opened some new information and I look forward to the book you refer to being published . Any news on when it will be released to the general public ? It will be nice to have another source to read about the Amiens Raid. I wonder in the last ten to fifteen years has any historian sat down with some of the pilots of the raid and discussed at length the mission and other aspects of the raid ? If one goes to Amiens , what is there to see of the old prison and other locations related to the raid ? A museum perhaps ? Nice to see more added to this topic I started … this forum has been an excellent source for those like me highly interested in this mission. Julian thank you for your insights here …great stuff !

    Andy thank you for the information about the name of the raid .. I had never read this before and wonder what the origin was for ” Jericho” ? I have orderd your book …” Finding the Few ” and looking forward to reading it !
    I am hoping most of all that some good fellow FLYPAST member will find a copy of that documentary produced back in 2005 on the Raid & Group Captians Pickerings navigator … Brodaley and let me know how I can get a copy..more that happy to pay all expenses.

    Thanks to all for your contribution here and addition comments, good way to get into the weekend. BlueNoser352 tips his cap and offers a salute to the additional comments here today !

    in reply to: New memorial to B-24 crew #1146489
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    Nice to see they are not forgotten !

    Its remarkable to see that your nation still honors these young men who came to your shores now 60 plus years ago to join in on the defeat of Hilter.
    Look forward to seeing some photos of the memorial.

    A Salute from !

    BlueNoser352

    in reply to: How many airman escaped the continent? #1147866
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    THE WOODEN HORSE !

    Well add two more RAF flyers in the classic tale of escape….. “The Wooden Horse” !…Good question for sure! I bet one of our fine forum members know !

    BlueNoser352

    in reply to: DVD footage of Amiens Prison raid ! #1149647
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    Lezza thanks for the reply on this topic

    Lezza :

    Thanks for taking the time to reply to this topic, I have held a long interest in this RAF Raid for many years since I saw that display and film at The Imperial War Museum in London back in the 1980’s. Being a television news photojournalist myself I am always amazed at the footage shot during the Second World War and this particular film, which is very sharp and detailed. Thanks for the book recommendation on ” The Gestapo Hunters” I have ordered this book from a publisher in Australia and cant wait to get it. I have sent out several emails to The Northern Echo newspaper in the UK and the video stores listed in its 2005 article about the film made on Broadley & the raid . I am hoping to get a copy the film refered to in the story… maybe one of good FlyPast readers will come to my assistance ……fingers crossed here ! I would like to know how many passes the photo aircraft made over the prison during the raid? I ordered a back copy of issue you spoke of “AFTER THE BATTLE” . Just love the concept of the Mosquito and what it did during the war.. an amazing all purpose aircraft for sure . I know I have enjoyed this particular topic here on the forum in a long time. The folks who post here really know their aviation history in particular that of WW II ! BlueNoser352 thanks all here who have added their knowledege to this topic.
    Hope one day I will make it down to that part of the world … my father fought in the Pacific with the 4th Marine Division ……. Seems there is much more about this raid than have been written about. This is one of few places one can go to find out and discusss this topic & others from WW II. I hope one day to see Amiens itself and check out the place where the raid took place …was hoping some of forum members who live in that part of world might have some advice for me on what if any is there to see. I see by google info that its only about 1:30 minutes from Charles de Gaulle airport..I think ….. might just wheel over and check out the city. Thanks again Lezza for the info and checking back in. Just keeping the topic going might help others to see it and add more info here !

    A salute from :

    BlueNoser352 !

    in reply to: Dambusters anniversary #1151438
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    Thanks for the reminder from across the big moat !

    Thanks troops for the reminder today on the forum..yes a date & men very well worth remembering. I got a nice dvd copy a few weeks ago of the fine program ” The Last DamBuster”. Enjoyed the production greatly …. remarkable study in precision flying in combat conditions. A not of rememberance for the crews lost in the raid as well as many civilians on the ground as well. Also a note to remember Richard Todd .. D-Day paratrooper and in the role of Wing Commander Gibson ! Will have to break out ” The DamBusters tonight and enjoy the film again ! BlueNoser352 joins you from acorss the big pond in remembering the men of the Dams raid . With Churchill here in the States during the raid… its success was a real boost to wartime moral in Britian during this part of the war !

    Plus don’t forget the date approaching … ” The Day of Days” !!!!

    ” Bomb Gone”

    A Salute from BlueNoser352!

    in reply to: DVD footage of Amiens Prison raid ! #1152430
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    One outstanding pilot & leader!

    Just looking at this mans combat record along with his numerous commands
    and its remarkable to see the kind of men who undertook this dangerous low level mission. Some record in the service of your RAF!

    BlueNoser352!

    in reply to: DVD footage of Amiens Prison raid ! #1152434
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    Group Capt Smith Mission pilot !

    Irving Smith
    Wartime fighter pilot famed for leading low-level precision bombing raids

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    John Bullen
    The Guardian, Wednesday 22 March 2000 02.21 GMT
    Article history
    Irving “Black” Smith, who has died aged 82, played a leading role in Operation Jericho, the Royal Air Force’s precision raid against Amiens jail in France on February 18 1944. The Gestapo were holding more than 700 French prisoners, including Louis Vivant, a key resistance figure, in Abbeville. The plan, requested by the resistance, was for the RAF to initiate a breakout of inmates.
    Eighteen Mosquito-VI fighter-bombers, six each from 487, 464 and 21 squadrons, all carrying two 500lb bombs with 11-second delay detonators, were to breach the 20ft-walls surrounding the prison and, three minutes later, smash the inner building. Twelve Typhoon fighters were to escort the force. A 19th Mosquito, from the film production unit, was to record the operation, which called for precision flying and bombing, and great courage.

    The weather was appalling. The crews studied a model of the prison for two hours, and took off at 11am from Hunsdon, Hertfordshire, with snow falling. Smith led the first six aircraft from 487 squadron and, just after midday, attacked the surrounding walls from a height of 10ft. Three minutes later, six Mosquitoes, of 464 squadron, attacked the prison buildings through the smoke and debris of the preceding attack. Two Mosquitoes and a Typhoon were lost, but 258 prisoners escaped, including Louis Vivant.

    Smith was born at Invercargill, Southland, New Zealand. He was educated at Seddon memorial technical college, Auckland, and on leaving school became an apprentice coach-painter. In late 1938, he applied for a short service commission in the Royal New Zealand Air Force and was accepted in January 1939. In July 1939, he was sent to England to complete his training.

    Smith was posted to 151 squadron flying Hurricane fighters in July 1940, and was soon involved in the Battle of Britain. On August 15, he shot down two Messerschmidt Bf-109E fighters and damaged a third. Other victories followed in August and October. In November, 151 squadron, flying Hurricanes and Defiant fighters, was re-deployed on night operations against the Luftwaffe’s night blitz on British cities. Smith was promoted to the rank of flight commander, and in March 1941 was awarded a DFC. In July, flying a Defiant, he destroyed a Dornier Do-217 bomber and damaged a Junkers Ju88 off Cromer.

    Smith was appointed commanding officer of 151 squadron in February 1942 and acting wing commander in April, when 151 squadron began converting to the potent Mosquito-II night-fighter. On the night of June 24/25, he shot down two German bombers and damaged a third off Yarmouth. He was awarded a bar to his DFC in July, having scored eight aerial kills and four damaged. Having spent more than 2 years flying operationally with 151 squadron, he was rested from operations in March 1943.

    Later that year, Smith was posted to No 2 (Bomber) Group HQ at the request of its air officer commanding, the famous Air Vice-Marshal Sir Basil Embry. In February 1944, he was appointed commanding officer of 487 squadron, RNZAF, operating Mosquito-VIs. Six Mosquito squadrons, specialising in low-level precision bombing – often against individual buildings – operated with No 2 Group, 2nd Tactical Air Force. Three squadrons – 487, 21 (British), and 464 (Australian) – formed 140 Wing, commanded by the redoubtable Wing Commander “Pick” Pickard. Then came Operation Jericho.

    The following August, Smith led 487 squadron in low-level precision raids on barracks at Poitiers and, some weeks later, on an SS headquarters at Vincey, near Metz. He was subsequently mentioned in dispatches. In October, he was again rested from operations, and served at 13 Officer Training Unit until the end of the war, when he was granted a permanent commission. His later duties included commanding 56 squadron, flying Meteor jets, and staff appointments at HQ Fighter Command and HQ Signals Command.

    He retired from the RAF as a group captain in 1966, and took up farming in south Devon. His wife Joan, whom he married in 1942 when she was a WAAF officer, died in 1994. They had two daughters, one of whom died in a car accident, and a son, who is now deputy supreme allied commander, Europe, General Sir Rupert Smith.

    • Group Captain Irving Stanley ‘Black’ Smith, pilot, born May 21 1917; died February 16 2000

    in reply to: 95th BG B-17G Memorial at Redlingfield, Suffolk. #1152658
    BlueNoser352
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    REF thanks for posting these photos & tribute report !

    REF:

    As a long time associate member of The Mighty Eighth Historical Society, thanks for posting these wonderful tribute photos on this ceremony. Nice to see that some US 95th Bomb Group veterans made it over the pond for the event ! Looks a great event and nice to see those green fields in East Anglica. I am sure this visit must have brought back many memories for the veterans in attendance and older local folks who recall those ” darn” Yanks running aound in their jeeps trucks & all that went with the ” Friendly Invasion “. I can tell you from first hand personal experience how well I was treated by many locals when I toured around the UK and went to many of the bomber & fighter stations of The Mighth Eighth. The warmth of folks in this area was remarkable and many had stories to relate to me with their days during the war and meeting so many veterans who came back in the 60’s,70’s & 80’s on reunion trips ! Indeed so many Eighth vets I know here in the states have great memories ( aside from the horrible combat missions) of being in the Uk during the war and meeting the local residents near their base ! Great to see their memory has not been forgotten with time and BlueNoser352 salutes those in the area for putting on this ceremony ! Love that motto of the 95th ….. ” Justice with Victory “!
    That is a wonderful memorial to the crew who lost their lives on that mission !I am sure many here in the USA and around the world say thanks to the people of the United Kingdom for your friendship & alliance during some dark days in our worlds history ! We inturn salute the brave men & women of the RAF & British forces who helped to defeat evil and bring freedom back to an enslaved Europe.

    Outstanding to see these photos !!! Long live the memory of The
    Mighty Eighth & our friends in The United Kingdom & RAF!

    BlueNoser352!!!!

    in reply to: Another "Landmark" building for RAFM Hendon #1153545
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    In a word NO !

    That is a lot of money for sure…..something as tall as the Eiffel Tower located near an active airfield ? Come on……………. somebody will fly right into it ! This can’t be a serious proposal ? Looks like a modern day Trojan Horse !

    BlueNoser352!

    Now a bomber command memorial is well needed..nice to see its support !

    in reply to: Bud Mahurin #1153547
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    One of Zemke Wolfpack !

    Very sorry to,learn this…I meet Bud Mahurin on several occasions and he signed my print by Gil Cohen.. ” Return To Halesworth” Another of the great fighter pilots from the 56th Fighter Group. My condolences to his friends and family. He served his nation in war and peace very well !

    A Salute from BlueNoser352!

    in reply to: DVD footage of Amiens Prison raid ! #1155385
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    Nice print By Ivan Berryman !

    http://www.military-art.com/mall/more.php?ProdID=15438

    Nice sharp details in this print!

    Breakout. Amiens Raid by Mosquitos by Ivan Berryman.

    B0098. Breakout. Amiens Raid by Mosquitos by Ivan Berryman.

    When De Havilland built the prototype DH.98 Mosquito (E-0234) they did so as an act of the purest faith in their design since the Air Ministry had already dismissed the companys proposal for their all-wood aircraft as impractical and unworkable. However, when E-0234 first flew on 25th November 1940, it demonstrated remarkably smooth handling characteristics and its speed, as expected, was outstanding. Here at last was a bomber which, in a straight line, could outfly even the Spitfire, giving rise to such nicknames as Wooden Wonder and, succicntly The Aeroplane. With such an aircraft, it was soon realised, many new possibilities were laid open to the RAF, among them the chance to initiate precision raids whereupon carefully selected isolated targets could be attacked with pinpoint accuracy. Just such a raid took place on 18th February 1944, involving 18 Mosquitoes of Nos 64 and 487 Squadrons in an operation on the jail at Amiens, France, where a large number of the French Resistance were being held for questioning by the Gestapo. It was thought unlikely that any of them would survive their ordeal at the hands of their inquisitors and it was considered more sensible to try to aid their escape by breaching the prison walls, even if it meant that some of the prisoners might be killed in the process. An accurate model of the jail and the nearby town was constructed and each pilot viewed the model from eye level to familiarise themselves with the view that they would get from a planned height of 50 feet. With this knowledge and some carefully selected reference points such as church spires and chimneys, the Mosquitoes, led by Group Captain Charles Pickard, were able to brush over the rooftops of the town and deliver their bombs with incredible accuracy, breaching the prison walls in four places. 258 prisoners escaped in the ensuing chaos and were quickly spirited away by other Resistance groups who were waiting outside. Sadly, a number of French prisoners were killed in the raid and added to the losses of that day was Group Captain Pickard himself who fell victim to marauding Focke Wulf 190s, but the raid had been a tremendous success and further precision attacks using the most superb Mosquito were carried out throughout 1944 and 1945, each one making its own significant contribution to the downward turn in the fortunes of Hitlers Reich.

    Last 3 copies.

    Signed by Flight Lieutenant Maxwell N. Sparks A.F.C., R.A.F. and Navigator Kev Kavin.

    in reply to: DVD footage of Amiens Prison raid ! #1155389
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    Another Obit for RAF Amierns Raid!

    Another Brave RAF Amiens Prison Raid flyer! Brave men for sure!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/4974874/Squadron-Leader-Tom-McPhee.html

    quadron Leader Tom McPhee
    Squadron Leader Tom McPhee, who has died aged 91, piloted one of the Mosquitos that flew on Operation Jericho, a daring low-level attack to breach the walls of Amiens prison to liberate members of the French Resistance who were due to be shot the next day.

    Published: 6:49PM GMT 11 Mar 2009

    During early 1944 news reached London that up to 120 prisoners were facing execution, some on February 19, and the RAF was ordered to attack the prison in an attempt to free them. Two days before the first executions 18 crews of No 140 Wing, commanded by Group Captain “Pick” Pickard (famous for his appearance in the 1941 documentary Target for Tonight), received their briefing.
    They were shown a replica model of the prison, and told to fly as low as 25ft. The aim was to drop delay-fused bombs to blow two holes in the walls, while a second group would open up the ends of the cruciform-shaped prison and destroy the German quarters. It was to this second task that McPhee and his navigator were assigned.

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    The weather on the day was appalling, but it was decided that the attack must go ahead. The 18 Mosquito bombers took off in blizzard conditions at 11am to rendezvous with their fighter escort. Three bombers were forced to turn back, but the leading section from No 487 (RNZAF) Squadron attacked the north and east walls successfully, and a few minutes later McPhee and his fellow pilots of No 464 (RAAF) Squadron attacked the prison, blowing the ends off the main building.
    The attacks were of pinpoint accuracy, and a third wave of aircraft was not required, but was ordered to return to base. Whilst circling to observe the results, Pickard was shot down by a German fighter – he and his long-serving navigator, Bill Broadley, were killed.
    Casualties in the prison were high, with 102 prisoners killed by the bombing or by German machine-gun fire; 50 German staff were also killed. But 258 prisoners managed to escape, including 12 of those who were due to be shot the following day.
    Among those who remained at large was Raymond Vivant, a key leader of the Resistance who had been captured a few days earlier and was awaiting interrogation. Five days after the attack, a message was received in London from the French Resistance which read: “I thank you in the name of my comrades for bombardment of the prison.” A post-war analysis of the operation concluded: “The attack on Amiens prison will remain one of the RAF’s epics.”
    Thomas McPhee was born at Greenock on November 30 1917 and educated at Preston Technical College. He began his working life as a draughtsman at Vauxhall Motors in Luton, but joined the RAF to train as a pilot in September 1938. His younger brother, James, also joined the RAF, and flew Hurricane fighters during the Battle of Britain.
    McPhee joined No 139 Squadron at the end of 1940 to fly Blenheims on daylight bombing attacks. They encountered fierce anti-aircraft fire, and casualties on the Blenheim squadrons were high. He attacked the port facilities at Rotterdam, Boulogne and Calais, and during a shipping sweep over the North Sea he sank two small ships.
    In early 1941 formations of six Blenheims, with a strong fighter escort, were sent to bomb airfields in northern France with the aim of enticing German fighters to join combat with the RAF escorts. McPhee flew on a number of these operations and bombed German occupied airfields at St Omer and Abbeville.
    On April 7 he and his crew flew in tight formation with the squadron commander to attack the Ijmuiden steel works in daylight. The two aircraft met intense enemy fire, but McPhee maintained his position and the target was bombed from 50ft. On leaving the area his aircraft was attacked by an enemy fighter, which damaged one of the Blenheim’s engines. The enemy pursued him half way across the North Sea before McPhee was able to shake it off. He returned to base and made an emergency landing.
    McPhee was awarded an immediate DFM, and a comrade recalled: “We congratulated him, but he was visibly annoyed that his crew – who had been on all his sorties – were neglected and not mentioned.”
    On May 27 McPhee flew his 40th, and final, sortie on No 139 when, still a sergeant, he led eight aircraft to attack the airfield at Lannion, near Brest. He delivered his attack from 50ft, scoring a direct hit on a hangar.
    He was then commissioned and, after a rest tour as an instructor, in December 1943 he and his close friend and permanent navigator, Geoff Atkins, joined No 464 Squadron. They flew night intruder attacks against German airfields, and in February 1944 started to bomb the V-1 launching sites and storage depots in the Pas de Calais. By April No 464 had begun attacking road and rail targets in preparation for the Normandy landings.
    On the night of June 5 – as the Allied invasion force crossed the English Channel – McPhee took off to attack enemy convoys and railway junctions near the beachhead, and the following night he flew two sorties against motor transports and railways. Throughout June he undertook numerous night missions strafing and bombing trains and railway installations to prevent enemy reinforcements reaching Normandy.
    By the end of June McPhee had completed 72 operations. He was awarded an immediate DFC for his “high standard of leadership and outstanding devotion to duty”. He continued to fly on non-operational duties for the rest of the war, and was released from the RAF in December 1945, when he received the Air Efficiency Award.
    After the war, McPhee returned to being a draughtsman. He worked for de Havilland Aircraft Company before moving to Bristol to work for Rolls-Royce until he retired.
    He maintained a close friendship with his navigator and his Blenheim air gunner, both of whom attended his golden wedding celebrations. He was an accomplished self-taught artist, and he had a wide knowledge and appreciation of fine wines.
    Tom McPhee, who died on February 22, married, in 1941, Elvina Duncan. She died in 2007, and he is survived by their two daughters.

    in reply to: DVD footage of Amiens Prison raid ! #1155393
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