jessmo24US Navy says electric jet-flinger tech looking good
Just in time to save the Royal Navy – or just too late?http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/27/emals_looking_good_as_sdsr_looms/
I feel like the debate has changed from ” the F-35 is a dog” to “well my air plane can do that also” “The systems on the F-35 are not unique”
You have to look at the total package. The networking, the over lapping sensors, the ability to stealthily hand off data, the Aesa. Having a similitude of a small fraction of the total hardware does not make rival aircraft the F-35. think about it, can you fit a SM3 on a F-35? why would it need to demonstrate a missile launch detection? How does being stealthy and being closer to the launch country help the war-fighter?
jessmo24SO the F-35 isn’t net worked or never will be with Aegis?
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Will you stand by this, or should I post a link
jessmo24@jessmo,
EODAS doesn’t hand off data to defense assets at all. It might be able to detect such missiles and if they are recognised as such (mainly a question of algorithms) you will hand off these data via DL. Looking through the aircraft is possible as soon as you have such an imaging IR device beneath the fuselage.
SO the F-35 isn’t net worked or never will be with Aegis?
jessmo24So maws would be able to hand off data to theater ballistic missile defense assets? Maws allows you to see through the air craft?
jessmo24I don’t get how a sub sonic air plane in a less than 10g turn has a 100% chance to avoid a 30g+ mach 4 type missile. I would not put all my trust in maws to save me from high end 5 generation platforms, or even 4th generation with new missiles.
jessmo24his article first appeared in AviationWeek.com.
“All options are on the table” for U.S. Air Guard officials struggling to fill a gap in the number of fighters available for units in the near term to fly missions protecting the homeland, says Lt. Gen. Harry Wyatt, director of the Air National Guard (ANG).
“I am basically platform agnostic,” Wyatt says. “I don’t care.“
This could include stealth aircraft — more F-22s or earlier fielding of F-35s — or the purchase of older, fourth-generation aircraft such as F-16s or F-15s. Technologies needed for the mission include an active, electronically scanned array radar (which can be used to detect small and stealthy air threats including cruise missiles), infrared search and track systems and beyond-line-of-sight communications, Wyatt told reporters during a Defense Writers Group breakfast in Washington this morning.
Congress appears amenable to the president’s request to close Lockheed Martin’s F-22 production line in fiscal 2010, capping the buy at 187 of the twin-engine fighter. Most observers expect the testing and delivery schedule for the single-engine F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to experience slips, possibly widening the gap for receipt of the new aircraft. F-35s aren’t due to the Guard until the middle of the next decade, he says.
Many of the 250 fighters being retired early in FY 10 are F-16s assigned to the Guard, and many of them are apportioned to the air sovereignty alert (ASA) mission. Some of those units will lack a flying mission until the F-35 is introduced into the fleet.
The U.S. Air Force has historically professed a preference to buy only fifth-generation fighters (F-22 or F-35), closing the door to additional procurements of the Lockheed Martin F-16 and Boeing F-15.
While Wyatt says he’s open to all options, he says “If you can get stealth [in the F-22 or F-35] at the same price, why not?” The general is not in favor of buying a particular aircraft and dedicating it to the ASA mission; he says the Guard should operate the same platforms as active duty units in order to handle the same missions as their active duty counterparts. Still, however, he says the Air Force is not “there yet” in terms of considering a buy of fourth-generation fighters to fill the gap.
Wyatt says he was incorrectly characterized as an advocate of additional F-22s after sending a June 19 letter in response to an inquiry on the issue from Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA). F-22s are assembled in Marietta, Ga.
“While a variety of solutions abound, I believe the nature of the current and future asymmetric threat to our nation, particularly from seaborne cruise missiles, requires a fighter platform with the requisite speed and detection to address them,” Wyatt wrote in his letter. “The F-22’s unique capability in this arena enables it to handle a full spectrum of threats that the ANG’s current legacy systems are not capable of addressing.”
Read the rest of this story, jump into the controversy over Col. Reese’s memo to declare victory and bail, see the new armed Lakotas and check out the Jordanian Falcons from our friends at Aviation Week, exclusively on Military.com.
– Christian
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Strick · 59 weeks ago
I don’t get it. Didn’t I just read over at StrategyPage.com that we have a bunch of slightly used F-16s left over from the Cold War sitting in the desert waiting to be sold to foreign countries? Why not upgrade enough of them to fill the gap until the F-35 arrives in enough numbers to pass on to the Guard?
Now, I know the Guard would rather have 5th gen fighters, but…
Read more: http://defensetech.org/2009/07/31/us-air-national-guard-struggles-with-fighter-gap/#ixzz10Fudu4VI
Defense.org
Old but true
http://defensetech.org/2009/07/31/us-air-national-guard-struggles-with-fighter-gap/
jessmo24They are specially designed Drew Brees missiles. Very accurTe they never miss XD
jessmo24LOL @ doppler radar Maws tracking F-22 Shots
jessmo24You do realize the F-22 and F-35 will both fire at mach 1.5 right? With the Raptor firing from
60k feet. You don’t this will have an effect on missile energy?
jessmo24On a side note, why wont the Brits sell the invincible class carriers?
Wouldn’t that bring in some much needed cash? I’m almost certain you could get the Japanese or the Koreans to bite at an offer like this. Screw it sell them to Taiwan. Throw in the harriers also.
jessmo24No the helmet serves as the HUD
jessmo24Well, we are talking in this particular case about a Partner operator who is requiring an IOC date for their next-gen platform by let’s say, 2018…
So it’s important to also recognize that by then, you’ll still only likely have an IOC block III F-35C entry, costing probably twice as much as an evolved F-18E+ block IV by then. Something to consider..
Besides, the F-35C is not even scheduled to have Meteor operational by then, whereas an F-18E+ in 2016 would almost certainly have.
Two F-18E+ @ half the cost, configured with 50k lbf, CFT, internal 9.2″ LW IRST, Thales AESA-based EA jamming pod, 2x Meteor, 2x AMRAAM (with IIR seeker) and 2x wing-tip ASRAAM would likely defeat two F-35C block III equipped with a light-weight MW EOTS and AMRAAM.. imho.
I would like to see how you arrived at this conclusion.
jessmo24How good is the F-2? is it comparable to a block 50+ F-16? can it compete with a F-16/F-18/ F-15 in sustained turn BVR combat and avionics?
is it 4.5 generation?
jessmo24can they take off within 1000 feet also?
jessmo24If you go for the F35 at all, F35C is likely to be the better aircraft. Much longer range. Much higher payload -double in stealth mode- no highly complex Lift Fan (that is just dead weight the aircraft is lugging around for most of the time, and could turn out to be a nightmare to maintain) and no reduced internal fire fighting system to make the aircraft more vulnerable to 30mm shells, etc.
F35C will also be up to about $25 million US each less expensive than, less capable STOVL F35B.
Old you make some good points, but I turn again to Afghanistan. what if there isn’t a forward air base ready with long runways? the F-35C may be cheaper, but the cost of going to cats will not be. your only trading the price of the aircraft for the price of the ship and the extra shirts required to maintain it. If your really worried about weapons load issues then the Uk should buy SDB. that would fix that issue
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