There was certainly a rule about all aircrew being Sergeants but I think the emphasis was the other way round.
I’m sure I read somewhere that any that weren’t Sergeants were promoted automatically when the rule came in.
I’m fairly confident rank didn’t matter when applying for aircrew training. Laddie Lucas joined as AC1. I’ve only just re-read his book and have forgotten the date but I’ve a feeling it was after the war started.
I think Duxfordhawk has a point. Any record attempt is designed to beat previous records and surely nobody’s going to say that Art Arfons, or whoever it was trying at the same time, was delighted that THRUST SSC got there first.
I hope they’ve done as much research as Richard Noble and his team.
When designing Thrust SSC, they discovered that if Richard Noble had gone just a few mph faster in Thrust 2, he/it would have taken off.
Apparently Thrust SSC was capable of going a little faster but they decided any record could be beaten but nobody else could be the first to go supersonic. They beat a dignified retreat while everybody was in one piece.
Congratulations and well done Leah.
PII
I don’t deny that the P-80/T-33 was successful, it was but that doesn’t make it iconic.
I guess that Joe Public in the UK has never heard of them.
Likewise the Airacomet, it’s only important to Americans. You could just as easily put the Gloster Whittle, the Heinkel whatever it was, and any one of couple of dozen others that are important to only one country.
I didn’t know the Meteor beat the 262 into service. Both had a marginal impact on the war, I wonder which had more?
I stand by my opinions.
Nice one, Moggy.
For someone who says he can’t take pictures, the panning’s spot-on.
I think, but am not certain, that Gosling was the British name for the Widgeon.
Memories of an Airfix kit in the dim and distant past.
I have no beef with most of Aerospace/Janie’s list but items 7,8 and 9 have no iconic, international, ground-breaking or any other importance. I assume Aerospace International are American and just wanted to pad the list out a bit.
Take all three out and put in the Me262 as the world’s first operational jet fighter and it’s a pretty good list.
Aren’t the T-33 and P-80 basically the same thing?
Originally posted by Paul Cushion
Early F104’s had a downward firing ejection seat I believe…Paul
I assume it’s not zero/zero then.:)
David
Perhaps I should have put “no affordable way out”.
I know the feeling was that we’d stitched the French up when they tried to get out, only to have it backfire on us a year or two later.
How many times the two sides tried I don’t know. I would assume after one try each, finding the potential penalties, they would give up but that may attribute too much intelligence to politicians.
David
Not sure I entirely agree with you there about Concorde.
Both governments thought the other would try to get out of it (which they did) so between them they drew up such a cast-iron contract there was no way out.
Originally posted by Graeme C
was there a big size difference between the mossie and the hornet?
Too lazy to go and get my specs and sort out a suitable book for an exact answer.
The wingspan of the Mosquito was 54ft 2in and, I think, the Hornet was 45ft or thereabouts.
Again from memory, I think the Hurricane was/is about 40ft so with just over 4000hp, no wonder it was quick.
There’s a couple in a paddy field off the end of of one of the runways on Singapore. Mid-air collision on finals, apparently, and went in too far to get them out.
Bloke in my local was an RAF engine fitter at the time and saw it happen but I can never remember which station it was.
Pedantic mode on:
Royston’s in Hertfordshire.
Is re-sparring a CASA 2-111 feasible?
I have to agree that it’s worthwhile. The Sea Vixen’s been everywhere this year. In previous year(s) with no sponsorship there were many less bookings and a number of no-shows.
To me, wih my obvious bias, it’s been a highlight of the year.
Big, fast and noisy, just what any airshow needs.
Jaguars and Tornadoes don’t count.
It certainly looks like a PR34, with two-stage Merlins and bulged bomb bay. If you look at the pic carefully, there’s a noticable difference in shade where the flat nose ends and what looks like a false tip’s been stuck on. Note also the angle of the “machine guns”.
I think by 1954 the only Mossies in the far east were PR34s but that’s from memory, not research.
At least they bothered to fit a false nose, rather than just painting the perspex.