Sold my copy for £6.00 in June 2005 at one of these events – and I believe that it might have been to someone that posts on here!
What struck me was how everything seemed to be so fresh in the authors mind! 😉
Chox – you have PM, which I read after I’d made the post! Sorry about the book having moved on!! 😮
£6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dear god man do you know what they change hands for now:D.
Regards,
John.
I second TO’s vote for ‘The Murder of TSR-2’, my copy has been read several times over and is arguably one of the best and ‘freshesed’ accounts of the government failings in the TSR project and the ultimate reason as to why it was cancelled…….cost.
Regards,
John.
Or you could check lost & found at the Stork Hotel…………….
John.
Last I heard there was a set held in store at Hendon.
Regards,
John.
Inkworm already mentioned this SHAR in post #681, 4K for a completely stripped out fuselage on stands, no wings, no undercarts, no cockpit to talk of, no nozzles, no tail or stabs, and a whacking great crease just in front of the port intake that could be the signs of a twisted frame…….all of a sudden it aint so cheap!!!.
Mind you if a paintball park wants it…….
John.
From you second picture, does the copper rings on the projectile fit INSIDE the neck of the brass cartridge?, these are the deformable copper rings that form a gas tight seal with the barrels rifling as the projectile is fired.
The rings fit inside the cartridge and the cartidge neck is crimped to form a nice seal between the cartridge and shell, if this is not the case then the two might not belong together.
Regards,
John.
Looks more like ‘Sugg’ to me?
John.
I’ve seen this Photo recently on this forum I thought? there were a couple of pictures of the aftermath air to ground shots of the landing/crash spot? to go with it………………..
The photo’s have been published in Stuart Scott’s English Electric Lightning Vol 1, a slight correction, it was not a demonstration flight but an air test after an ECU change.
Regards,
John.
I agree that the suits were special to this aircraft, indeed the arm restrains would have a similar function to the leg restrains during ejection, the suits themselves were probably not designed for high altitude flight as the test program had not reached that stage prior to cancellation.
The first foray into altitude would have involved the Taylor partial pressure helmet and then for sustained high altitude work then I feel a more substantial suit would have been designed, much akin to the U-2 style flight gear.
No doubt they would have used pressure trousers for high ‘g’ loads but again would there have been call for anything more at the time as the test program was not yet in full swing?.
Could these suits have been standard kit but with mods to incorporate the special straps and restraints for the ejection seat?
All very interesting stuff!
John.
Interesting this one, I have had a look at the ‘standard’ published photographs of RPB and Jimmy Dell in their flight gear either doing pre-flight checks or getting ready to climb aboard.
I feel that they are not wearing ‘pressure suits’ as such because the cuffs and collars appear loose and in no way fix to the gloves or helmet, the photo of Jimmy Dell shows him holding his MK.2 bone dome that he used when flying the lightning.
The differences in the suits appear to be in the webbing and harnesses for strapping to the ejector seat, did the test flights involve the requirement of a ‘pressure’ or ‘partial pressure’ suit?, Lightning pilots did not use a pressure suit (only a Taylor partial pressure helmet for high altitude work) and the TSR-2 was not expected to exceed the Lightnings altitude capability’s by that much.
Would like to know more about this subject as it seems to have little coverage in my stuff.
Regards,
John.
Ahhh TG’s helmet collection……very nice:D
Regards,
JB.
Gents,
Are we getting the ‘wings and wheels’ events mixed up with the airshow event?, IIRC the airshow event finished in 2007 and there are no plans to do another one as yet.
Regards,
John.
It was all going very well untill I got to the dangly bits:o
John.
Is this the same one that was spotted in a field recently?
Not sure if this is the exact one but it certainly came from Reto Aviation, IIRC one was baught at auction and ended up in someones back garden for a short while before being sold on again, this might be the one but I can’t seem to find the news clips on the web at the moment.
Regards,
John.
I’m not sure if it has been mentioned yet in this thread but there is a Starfighter with taxiing ambitions isn’t there? Does anyone know how that getting on at all?
MH
IIRC the starfighter was for sale a little while back.
Regards,
John.