Oh heck why not!!!
Mono-plane,
Can you add more to the reasons for your first post?, is it your choice of the ultimate aircraft type?, are you trying to open a discussion to see what other peoples preferred ultimate aircraft type is?.
Do you have flight experience?, pilot rating?, hours on type?.
I for one have actually been quite interested and informed by peoples responses to an otherwise very lack lustre first post, even in light of your quite short and sharp responses!.
It would be nice if you added a little more to a thread you have started then maybe a constructive discussion can take place;)
Regards,
John.
Thank you for the compliments on my grip collection gents, it’s taken a while to pull together but worth it in the end:D, a little more info on the ‘banana’ style grips…..
This one was fitted to the DB (development batch) of aircraft and the three P.1B’s making it quite rare as only 23 of these airframes were built, it has a single four way trimmer hat. gun cam and PTT buttons and also autopilot and ‘feel’ switches…..

This ‘ergonomics’ grip was an existing removed from an airframe and modified in house at Warton, it dispensed with the autopilot/feel switches and had in place mock ups of the new locations for autopilot and a two pole trimmer arrangement, this clearly shows the development for the later F.1/F.6 grip that went on to the production aircraft……

Imcidentally these grips according to the data plates are ‘sisters’ on the production run having consecutive numbers.
Nice pair of grips Rocketeer and the P38 yoke look purposeful, keep em coming gents.
Regards,
John.
Here is my current collection of grips, they are clearly from a single type (no guesses!) and are one from each mark including a left hander from a twin tub, a development batch grip and a one off hand made ergonomics grip that came from Warton.
No clear favourite as each has its own story (two were source directly from pilots 😀 ) but the prototype grips top the list closely followed by the Ian Black grip :D.

Regards,
John.
She’s looking much better now though, sterling work fellas:D
http://www.aarg.com.au/Beaufighter.htm
John.
efiste2
As per my copy of the F.6 pilots notes, normal G-limits were +6G to -3G, this had it’s own set of variables depending on which missiles were fitted, ventral tank empty/full and relative speed of the aircraft, essentially though these were the limits the pilots worked to in normal operational flight.
With the overwing tanks fitted the G-limits were reduced accordingly….
Fuel in overwing tanks 3.5G (3G above 475 knots)
Overwing tanks empty 4G (3.5G above 475 knots)
With single missile 2G
As for maximum airspeed the in service limit was 2.0M/650 knots, whichever is first attained but with overwing tanks was dramatically reduced to just 0.98M/525 knots.
HTH
John.
Peter orme was the pilot in the orange flight suit, not sure who the other two were.
John.
Shorter slots on the LEX improved flight performance and aerodynamics…….
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52810288@N05/8282498223/in/set-72157632266352129/
The final solution, which Northrop didn’t like, was found on the follow-on F/A-18A, where two thirds of the slots were blocked off. The only area left open was for the boundary layer air to exit after going up the inlet ramp.
John.
Will it be at le…….:D
John.
Two tubs and four booms, plus spares so maybe the start price is not that far out?
John.
Am I the only one confused as to why people are trying to convince themselves that this letter dated 55/54 when it is clearly and unmistaskably dated 85/84:confused:
No matter how hard I look at this letter there is nothing that convinces me it is anything but a fake.
John.
Plazz,
Archer has PM’d me and shed some much needed light on things, thank you all involved for seeing my point of view and putting across another side of the story, the upshot is you have had an experience that you will never forget and a very good one for all involved.
Lets hope that this heralds a new chapter in the safe and succesful operation of this cold war icon.
Regards,
John.
Great photos and what a wonderful experience!
As for Thunder City, there is a big change as they don’t operate commercially anymore. The Lightning report wasn’t very kind to them and because of that they don’t sell rides anymore. The Bucc is now operated as a private aircraft.
Lets not degenorate this thread into a slanging match but there is some fundamentals about yours statement that just does not sit well with me, especially after having read the report.
Firstly the report was not kind to them for good reason, the AAIB are not into ‘witch hunts’ or ‘disproportionate blame’ they deal only in cold hard facts and courses of action to maximise prevention of repeat occurences.
The report was as kind to them as Thunder City made it for themselves in that they are the ones responsible for their actions, simple as.
The private aircraft/commercial argument holds no weight, should the aircraft be operated any differently whether they have paying public aboard or not?, lets not forget that at the time of the accident the aircraft was essentially being operated as a ‘private aircraft’.
And these chaps that got a back seat ride (paying or not) are putting the lives in the hands of people who have been certified to fly an aircraft a safetly as possible, maintained correctly and with fully functioning safety equipment, something which they failed to do resulting, sadly, with the loss of life.
It’s possibly one of the biggest gambles to take, have the ride of a lifetime in your dream aircraft but under the shadow of a very tragic, avoidable accident, close call I say but lets not dissolve the AAIB report and defend Thunder City so quickly.
Regards,
John.
This is a test bed engine and not an actual flown example?, the running times recorded in the history supplied by DB far exceed the total flight time of the TSR-2 test programme prior to cancellation.
John.
Thanks MJR, a good informative post, every day a learning day;)
John.
Gents
As per Card 24 of the FRC’s issued march 82, AP 101B-1003, 5&6-14……..
Failure to Eject
If canopy failed to jettison:
Canopy unlock handle Pull up
Firing handle … Pull again
This clearly indicates that once the canopy has left the airframe then the seat firing handle will need to be pulled again to initiat the seat firing mechanism.
John.